# I'm sorry, don't start "stupid" threads?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 16, 2004, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629 "2004-06-16T09:38:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SanibelMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@SanibelMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanibelMan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/21 "2004-06-16T18:01:51Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> …just because their knees are wound so tight that a butterfly will trigger a smack to their chins.

I just wanted to point that section of the sentence out and reiterate what **Homebrew** said about cold medicine.

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**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/22 "2004-06-16T18:13:19Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> That said, however, it is a sign of insanity to open a thread complaining about a moderator action.

I thought _this_ part made sense.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/23 "2004-06-16T18:20:36Z")

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I believe the “knees wound so tight” comment was referring to folks who would (presumably) have a ‘knee jerk’ reaction so strong that they’d actually hit their chins.

I’m gonna again ask **Lib** everything ok?? it’s just that, well, you often (IMHO) come into mod complaint threads commenting positively (especially for **Tuba** for example). anyhow.

moving on to the OP:

what exactly is your preferred outcome here? If you wanted an explanation of what you did that got your thread locked, I’d have thought an email approach would satisfy that need. If you want to ultimately head a trainwreck/flameout/suicide by mod thread, you’re well on your way.

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/24 "2004-06-16T18:23:48Z")

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I haven’t read **pizzabrat’s** other threads, but I did just read the whole thread referenced in the OP. I do not think **pizzabrat** was being stupid or a jerk. Perhaps his posts were slightly insensitive and/or unseemly, but nothing struck me as out of line or seemed much different than other things I’ve seen in sex threads. However, the thread probably should have originally gone in MPSIMS since it wasn’t really much of a rant.

**Otto** , would you be bitching out **pizzabrat** this hard if he was gay, and describing his frustration at listening to his hunky straight male roommate having sex with a girl? I think not. I really don’t understand why this thread stuck in the craw of so many dopers - was it a perceived anti-gay bias? Or simply because you thought it was “stupid”?

Also, I thought this snippet in the original thread was just hilarious:

> [@BytopianDream](#):
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> And lesbians are able, both physically and mentally, to use any sort of fun penetration devices. It is not against the lesbian code or anything.
> 
> WOW! I coded a link right! Sweet!
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> \*Last edited by Lynn Bodoni : Today at 01:54 AM. Reason: **Porn link** -Lynn \*

(Aside to **Lynn** : did you think it was funny too, or is an egregious rules violation never funny to the person who has to deal with it?)

P.S.  
Nice post, **Lib**.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/25 "2004-06-16T18:43:33Z")

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> [@neuroman](#):
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> **Otto** , would you be bitching out **pizzabrat** this hard if he was gay, and describing his frustration at listening to his hunky straight male roommate having sex with a girl? I think not.

I would bitch at anyone who said that lesbian or gay sex “angers and confuses” them. I would consider anyone who says that lesbian or gay sex “angers and confuses” them and then indicates it was a joke to be a jerk.

If **pizzabrat** had complained that the sex was too loud or that the roommates were being inconsiderate about the time, place or noise level of sex generally. That isn’t even close to what happened here. He complained that he got initially turned on at the sex noises, then became angry and confused at the idea of the almighty penis having no role in the goings-on. I don’t see that your scenario is analogous.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/26 "2004-06-16T18:49:03Z")

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> [@Wring](#):
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> I’m gonna again ask Lib everything ok?? it’s just that, well, you often (IMHO) come into mod complaint threads commenting positively (especially for Tuba for example).

Huh? I didn’t mean that the mods were insane — it’s the people who open these complaint threads. I reckon they figure if they try it one more time, something different will happen.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/27 "2004-06-16T19:02:13Z")

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> [@neuroman](#):
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> **Otto** , would you be bitching out **pizzabrat** this hard if he was gay, and describing his frustration at listening to his hunky straight male roommate having sex with a girl?.

He is.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/28 "2004-06-16T20:27:24Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> How about for the next thirty days, you only post things you actually believe.

Why set limits?

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**Author:** ![MysteryFellow63427](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e4f/32.png) [@MysteryFellow63427](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysteryFellow63427)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/29 "2004-06-16T21:13:23Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> I would bitch at anyone who said that lesbian or gay sex “angers and confuses” them. I would consider anyone who says that lesbian or gay sex “angers and confuses” them and then indicates it was a joke to be a jerk.
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> If **pizzabrat** had complained that the sex was too loud or that the roommates were being inconsiderate about the time, place or noise level of sex generally. That isn’t even close to what happened here. He complained that he got initially turned on at the sex noises, then became angry and confused at the idea of the almighty penis having no role in the goings-on. I don’t see that your scenario is analogous.

Hmm. Ok, I see where you’re coming from. I guess I never believed he was really “angry and confused”, I just (perhaps incorrectly) interpreted it as a kind of garden variety “meh, I’m sexually frustrated” post, written with what was perhaps a poor choice of words.

People who really are angered and confused by gay sex … well, yeah, those people need to be enlightened.

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/30 "2004-06-16T23:26:38Z")

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> [@wring](#):
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> what exactly is your preferred outcome here? If you wanted an explanation of what you did that got your thread locked, I’d have thought an email approach would satisfy that need. If you want to ultimately head a trainwreck/flameout/suicide by mod thread, you’re well on your way.

I started this thread because I was up too late (I finally went to bed at dawn), angry, defeated, hurt, and groggy and the same time, and I don’t know what proper protocol is about complaining about unjust lockings. But I’m pleasantly surprised by the alarming dearth of wrecks, flames, and angry mods.

> [@Otto](#):
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> If you truly think there was nothing jerkish about your thread, print out your OP and show it to your roommates.

Good point - I obviously _won’t_ be doing that. However, it’s mainly because we’re nowhere near close enough for me to joke about their private sexual activities.

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/31 "2004-06-16T23:30:02Z")

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> [@pizzabrat](#):
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> Good point - I obviously _won’t_ be doing that. However, it’s mainly because we’re nowhere near close enough for me to joke about their private sexual activities.

Except behind their backs.

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**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/32 "2004-06-16T23:47:03Z")

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> [@Otto](#):
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> Except behind their backs.

Yes, obviously.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/33 "2004-06-17T00:39:54Z")

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> [@pizzabrat](#):
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> I started this thread because I was up too late (I finally went to bed at dawn), angry, defeated, hurt, and groggy and the same time, and I don’t know what proper protocol is about complaining about unjust lockings.

I’m positive the powers that be would prefer email.

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/34 "2004-06-17T02:17:03Z")

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> [@pizzabrat](#):
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> Yes, obviously.

Of course, you will not object when everyone makes fun of you behind your back. Turnabout is fair play.

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**Author:** ![Rufus\_Xavier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/eada6e/32.png) [@Rufus\_Xavier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rufus_Xavier)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/35 "2004-06-17T03:21:23Z")

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Which way is pizzabrat’s back? I wanna play fair…  
‘is pizzabrat feces? should we hate it?’

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/36 "2004-06-17T03:37:04Z")

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> [@Liberal](#):
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> … or just because their knees are wound so tight that a butterfly will trigger a smack to their chins…

Tee hee, I like that.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/37 "2004-06-17T12:26:33Z")

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There is alot more piling on here at straight dope than at other boards, you just got unlucky.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/38 "2004-06-18T03:52:42Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Except behind their backs.

Fair’s fair. There’s no reason to single out pizzabrat for using this board to make fun of somebody from real life. There have been posts beyond counting by other people doing the same thing (and I include myself here).

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/39 "2004-06-18T04:09:24Z")

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Stupidity and pizzabrat are the macaroni-and-cheese of the SDMB, I’ve noticed.

Or, if you prefer, peanut butter and chocolate.

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**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2004, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry-dont-start-stupid-threads/250629/40 "2004-06-18T05:20:26Z")

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I can’t figure out if pizzabrat is a stupid, annoying guy or a whiny, self-centered woman.

A hermaphrodite, perhaps?

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