# I'm sorry.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 10, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079 "2003-12-10T03:22:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/21 "2003-12-10T16:43:34Z")

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Good riddence.

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**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/22 "2003-12-10T16:44:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Flamsterette\_X \*  
> **It certainly was weird seeing “Suspended” under your name**

Looks like that’s fixed.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/23 "2003-12-10T16:46:32Z")

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He was able to post while “Suspended”. Let’s see if he can post while BANNED…

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**Author:** ![Horrifying\_Howler\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df788c/32.png) [@Horrifying\_Howler\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horrifying_Howler_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/24 "2003-12-10T16:46:52Z")

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Was that because of this thread? 😕

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/25 "2003-12-10T16:47:14Z")

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Apparently apologizing in the Pit is verboten as well.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/26 "2003-12-10T16:49:35Z")

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If he is banned I assume it happened in a different thread, since the mods usually post a quick explanation. Wonder what he said that finally pushed them over the edge?

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**Author:** ![NYR407](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@NYR407](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NYR407)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/27 "2003-12-10T16:49:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \*  
> \*\*So fuck yourself and get out of my feel-good thread. \*\*

Just a guess but first he starts a “joke thread” in The Pit and now he posts a “feel-good thread” in The Pit.

Some people never learn.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/28 "2003-12-10T16:51:13Z")

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Is this a mistake? I can’t see that Ilsa has broken any rules since he’s returned from his suspension?

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**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/29 "2003-12-10T16:52:25Z")

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“You guys all suck!”  
“I’m sorry… I didn’t mean it… you guys don’t suck…”  
“Fuck you all!”

I’m paraphrasing, but that seemed to be the gist. Just a guess, but perhaps they doubted the sincerity of this OP.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/30 "2003-12-10T16:54:17Z")

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See? Sacrificing chickens _does_ work!

I’m not going to extrapolate the reasoning behind the banishment, but it seemed like he was sorry in a half ass sort of way. I’m sure someone will swing by and offer up a clarification.

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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/31 "2003-12-10T17:02:28Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by World Eater \*  
> \*\*See? Sacrificing chickens _does_ work!
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> I’m not going to extrapolate the reasoning behind the banishment, but it seemed like he was sorry in a half ass sort of way. I’m sure someone will swing by and offer up a clarification. \*\*

Was Ilsa a he? I’ve been referring to it as a ‘she’ all this time.

Ava

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/32 "2003-12-10T17:02:59Z")

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> Is this a mistake? I can’t see that Ilsa has broken any rules since he’s returned from his suspension?

Quite possibly. There was, as I indicated, a(nother) discussion yesterday about banning Ilsa. We reached a consensus in that discussion to terminate his privileges. But it appears that events have moved faster than actions. When the big red button was pushed we were unaware of this thread.

So. Now we are undertaking a discussion to restore Ilsa’s privileges. Sorry about the mix-up folks. It’s a little difficult to coordinate things and act in real-time across 3 continents and gawd knows how many time zones. Hang with us while we get this sorted out.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/33 "2003-12-10T17:07:28Z")

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Damn chickens. I knew I should have gotten the good ones.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/34 "2003-12-10T17:09:27Z")

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Damn.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/35 "2003-12-10T17:25:23Z")

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> Now we are undertaking a discussion to restore Ilsa’s privileges.

Bear in mind during that discussion that **Ilsa’s** original sin was starting a “joke thread.” This is a recurrent problem in the BBQ, and at the time of **Lynn’s** action, there were several other posters who could just as easily been suspended for the same offense. It seems unrealistic to expect someone who has been made an example of to respond with utter equanimity. **Ilsa** pretty much got around to it eventually, and that should count for a _lot_.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/36 "2003-12-10T17:35:28Z")

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I thought the volcano was brilliant.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/37 "2003-12-10T17:37:36Z")

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Ok, I’m back again. I will apologize again if I have been a pain, and I promise the moderators I will no longer cause them any undue strain. Thanks for everyone who has been supportive.  
**WorldEater** , I was going to tell you to go fuck your goat, but that would have been pointless and below the new Ilsa. You are the only one who has been being a real crybaby lately.

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/38 "2003-12-10T17:40:20Z")

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At any rate, I’m having trouble understanding why a consensus was reached to ban him. He was suspended for a thread that was only debatably a joke thread–especially debatable considering the documented general confusion regarding the then-ill-defined term “joke thread”–did his time, and broke no further rules. How was such a consensus reached? On what grounds?

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/39 "2003-12-10T17:45:38Z")

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WorldEater has a goat? I thought I got his goat a LONG time ago. Oh well, you know what they say.

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**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/40 "2003-12-10T17:50:17Z")

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