# I'm sorry. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 10, 2003, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079 "2003-12-10T03:22:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/41 "2003-12-10T17:55:14Z")
**lissener** : Last night, **Ilsa** came un-fucking-glued and began a little hijack/rampage in at least one thread. This apology is disingenuous and timed within a gnat’s pube of the Big Red Button. He’s just playing around with the Mods, but at least he’s still “Ilsa.” Thank goodness, because if he gets banned, we’ll have to deal with more cheap socks than a Wal\*Mart sweatshop. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/42 "2003-12-10T18:02:16Z")
That was out of line. I was banned for about an hour, before the mods saw this thread. I am not fucking with the mods. I would not create socks if I was banned, and I don’t plan on getting banned. Disingenuous my ass. I want an apology, you pathetic asshole. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/43 "2003-12-10T18:11:06Z")
Mr. B, such accusations have been described as bannable offenses in their own right. So shut the fuck up asshole. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/44 "2003-12-10T18:24:21Z")
What you might not understand, **Ilsa** , is that your apologies come off as half-hearted when they’re followed by what may appear to some people as unhinged rage. I understand you’re upset. Other people are, too. Somewhere in the middle, the truth lies. You’re almost certainly not a bad person, although there are perhaps folks here who have formed that conclusion on the basis of some of your posts, particularly recent posts. I guess the central issue isn’t one of a breaking of rules - as it’s been determined that none were explicitly broken - but rather one of bad form. It’s bad form to return from a suspension and complain bitterly about being suspended, then apologize, then continue to tussle with other people. As some point, you have to let it go. I know, it takes two to tango, and perhaps other people aren’t helping matters. You can’t control that - you can only control what you yourself do. You’re obviously not on the bad side of the moderators, because they admitted you had been unfairly banned - this tells me at least some see your side of things. This is a positive of which you should take note. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/45 "2003-12-10T18:47:16Z")
I have, and I have no beef with any of the moderators. It is the continued harassment from people like Mr. B that irks me. I have jsut been stressed lately, and I have let it all go now. They can just direct their comments to that brick wall over there. Bring on the movie threads! ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/46 "2003-12-10T19:02:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lissener \* > \*\*Mr. B, such accusations have been described as bannable offenses in their own right. So shut the fuck up asshole. \*\* Nonetheless, the first sentence of Mr. B’s post is accurate. And that’s what led to the discussion. If you haven’t seen it, that thread is here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=228166](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=228166) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/47 "2003-12-10T19:19:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ilsa\_Lund \* > \*\*I have, and I have no beef with any of the moderators. It is the continued harassment from people like Mr. B that irks me. \*\* Continued harassment? OH fucking puh-lease. :rolleyes: Let’s see a cite here buddy. Put up or shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/48 "2003-12-10T19:27:12Z")
Cite? > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Mr. B_\*\* > This apology is disingenuous and timed within a gnat’s pube of the Big Red Button. He’s just playing around with the Mods, but at least he’s still “Ilsa.” Thank goodness, because if he gets banned, we’ll have to deal with more cheap socks than a Wal\*Mart sweatshop.\*\* ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/49 "2003-12-10T19:33:53Z")
Let’s see here, Yellow Pages…Ah! “Fatted Calf 'R Us” Perfect! ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/50 "2003-12-10T19:42:36Z")
What the hell does that mean? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/51 "2003-12-10T19:50:56Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by UncleBeer \* > \*\*Nonetheless, the first sentence of Mr. B’s post is accurate. And that’s what led to the discussion. If you haven’t seen it, that thread is here: > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=228166](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=228166) \*\* All respect, UB, but bullshit. He never made a peep after you posted this– > [@](#): > > I’m gonna tell you the same thing I tell everyone else who creates a situation simliar to the one you’ve created for yourself here. No. I’m not gonna close the thread. Let’s call it a test. We’ll see if you meant what you said up there, “Ok, I apologize from the bottom of my heart. Let’s drop it.” You can show your sincerity by not posting to this thread again. It’ll also go a long way toward convincing the staff that we were not remiss in lifting your suspension - which I gotta tell ya, I’m not too sure about right now. > > The test begins . . . now. –and THAT was in response to his asking you to close the thread! What kind of shit is that? Smells vaguely of entrapment. In any case, he took your test and passed it, and THEN you banned him? This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. Quasi-newbie flies off a couple handles, never ventures beyond a gray area, and is made a reactionary example of by a mod on a mission. Takes his medicine, does the time, and then is subjected to another mod pile-on for another questionable offense. Is that even kosher? OP asks you to close a thread and you MOCK him instead? DARE him to post again after he’s explicitly asked you lock the thread? and then ban him ANYWAY? What the hell’s going on here? ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/52 "2003-12-10T19:51:08Z")
It means you’re the prodigal son come home. Someday, there will be a world in which each person’s goal will be to be a better person than the person with whom they have a disagreement. Someday, aerodynamic porcine creatures may take flight in Hades. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/53 "2003-12-10T19:53:17Z")
Well, I’m trying, dantheman. ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/54 "2003-12-10T19:55:25Z")
I’m young, yet. There is still time. After all, tomorrow is another day. I think the problem is due in part to the fact that I can’t help but be sarcastic most of the time. Most people don’t pick up on it. ---
**Author:** ![dantheman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dantheman/32/9421_2.png) [@dantheman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dantheman)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/55 "2003-12-10T20:07:05Z")
No, and it’s tough to do so within an online medium. The smart thing to do would be to not post to this thread, instead concentrating on the movie threads. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/56 "2003-12-10T20:45:52Z")
i shall echo my advice in your last thread and suggest you stop posting in this one. Continued sniping will not end well for someone, and you are the one currently on thin ice with the administration. ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/57 "2003-12-10T20:59:07Z")
And don’t ask for the thread to be closed either. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/58 "2003-12-10T21:11:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lissener \* > > All respect, UB, but bullshit. He never made a peep after you posted this _Didn’t_ he? Kamikaze-hijack post, 5:36 p.m.: [ > [@](#): > > ]([http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=4331705#4331705](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=4331705#4331705))Jesus Christ you fucks are bitter and mean bastards! 5:44 p.m.: > [@](#): > > Ok, Biggirl is only a mean bitch, everybody else is a bitter fuck. Keep reading, he gets much worse. Then he apologizes, in the “unglued” thread, then posts his “apology” here at 7:22 p.m. What, precisely, the _hell_ is going on here is we have a very clever person who’s milking this for all its worth. You’ve been played, **lissener**. And don’t kill the messenger. It’s simply not sporting. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/59 "2003-12-10T21:12:20Z")
Fuck you lissener. I dunno what kinda bullshit you’re attempting to stir up here, but I assure you I don’t like it. And I don’t like you either. Ilsa was banned through a misunderstanding among the staff members. I admitted that. And then I got it corrected. And yet here you are nipping at my fucking ankles like a yappy little bitch pup who can’t read: **Ilsa\_Lund Member**. > [@](#): > > This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. Well that makes at least two of us. Fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2003, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079/60 "2003-12-10T21:43:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by lissener \* > > Mr. B, such accusations have been described as bannable offenses in their own right. So shut the fuck up asshole. Are you really that dense? It was a **thought** , about something that could (in my humble opinion) occur in the future, not an accusation. Gosh, for someone who bitches so loudly about “mind reading,” you sure do _your_ fair share. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-sorry/218079.md?page=4)