# I'm starting a Pit thread for Ilsa Lund to insult me/ **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2004, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903 "2004-04-02T15:37:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/41 "2004-04-03T03:29:23Z")
Wow, is there any way we could get some of that Cervasian wisdom made into a sticky or something? It’s something I think everyone – including myself – should read. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/42 "2004-04-03T03:41:17Z")
Now I’m kind of nervous about how **Cervaise** is picturing me – a debonair chap in a silk smoking jacket drinking brandy, or a grouchy slob in a ratty t-shirt drinking Schlitz? Or maybe a precocious tabby with a diamond collar who a saucer of milk? Seriously, that was a great post on posting. ---
**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/43 "2004-04-03T03:42:40Z")
See – I try to be witty, and I leave out a word. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/44 "2004-04-03T04:18:27Z")
Now **Ilsa** knows what it feels like to deconstructed. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/45 "2004-04-03T04:45:05Z")
Am I the only one disappointed to miss out on what could have been a really great pitting? Ilsa, bud … could you please not change for just a few more days? And be rude to **Cervaise** a couple of times? It really would make a much better story for when you look back on it years from now. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/46 "2004-04-03T05:36:47Z")
Y’know, if there was ever a single post that summed up the SDMB, I think that was it right there. 😃 Great job, Cervaise. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/41988e/32.png) [@El\_Cid\_Viscoso](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cid_Viscoso)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/47 "2004-04-03T06:39:17Z")
Ward, I don’t think you were hard enough on The Beaver. ---
**Author:** ![Sisyphus\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sisyphus\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sisyphus_Stone)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/48 "2004-04-03T07:07:40Z")
> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#): > > I change pretty easily, but for some unknown reason I usually have to get kicked in the ass to do it. I hesitate to venture into uncharted waters, being the timid soul I be. But this sounds to me like a theory about past experience and the capacity to change, or experience itself. Seems to me that experience and theories about experience are dialectically related - meaning, to me, that there is a constant and reciprocal dialogue between them. The dialogue between experience and theories about experience produces reflective knowledge - it is constantly subject to correction or adjustment. Such a theory is intended to producing enlightenment in an agent such as yourself who holds them - enabling you to determine what your true interests are. It should be liberating, it frees you from self-imposed self-frustration and makes change for the better possible. I hope so as, I too, have found you, many times, superficial in the extreme. ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/49 "2004-04-03T07:35:55Z")
ilsa\_lund is growing up and I’m part of it! ilsa, can I adopt you? 🙂 🙂 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/50 "2004-04-03T08:17:49Z")
> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#): > > Sixteen. At least I’m not doing drugs and having unprotected sex. . What the hell is wrong with kids today? Why when I was your age I… ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/51 "2004-04-03T10:33:13Z")
> [@spooje](#): > > What the hell is wrong with kids today? Why when I was your age I… Did you have internet connectivity or me as your adopted father? ---
**Author:** ![Ilsa\_Lund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a6a055/32.png) [@Ilsa\_Lund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ilsa_Lund)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/52 "2004-04-03T14:44:25Z")
> [@](#): > > I hope so as, I too, have found you, many times, superficial in the extreme. There is a reason for that. IRL, I am very busy and normally have a lot of work. This was my release, but I don’t generally have lots of time to devote to being all that I can be. I may seem superficial in the extreme, only because when I post, that is all of me that gets out. A quick joke, a light hearted insult, a few words on a film in CS. Even starting a movie thread takes me very little time, and I have to pretty much schedule a time to write it, generally not very long. > [@](#): > > The dialogue between experience and theories about experience produces reflective knowledge - it is constantly subject to correction or adjustment. Such a theory is intended to producing enlightenment in an agent such as yourself who holds them - enabling you to determine what your true interests are. It should be liberating, it frees you from self-imposed self-frustration and makes change for the better possible. Astoundingly observant. The main reason for my apparent flippancy and superficiality is my schedule, but keep in mind that I do graduate very soon. (From college mind, not high school. Not that I feel the need to brag, far from it, but it does have an impact on my character and sensibilities) > [@Cervaise](#): > > When I participate here, I am extremely conscious that these little paragraphs of text on my monitor represent the contributions of \*individual people. I’m not just looking at words on a screen; I have a vague sense of thousands of people, sitting at their desks at work or in their pajamas with a laptop on a breakfast tray, or whatever. That is the main problem, I suppose. I haven’t been doing this. I have, as you mention later, been using the SDMB as personal entertainment. I really needed it for a while. I shan’t much longer, though, and I hope I can become a valued member. I suppose that what it boils down to is that to me, this was “just a message board.” For many of you it isn’t. But I don’t really know any of you. I like many of you, I value your opinions, but I didn’t really _care_. I don’t think that it can ever _be_ more than a message board to me, but I know that it really is a community. Understanding that, I can focus on treating this like the community of people it is and acting accordingly, even if I’ll never be in the thick of things, relatively speaking. ( **Never Have I Because I** , you can adopt me from the “Kiss My Ass Foundation.”) ---
**Author:** ![Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/71c47a/32.png) [@Never\_Have\_I\_Because\_I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Have_I_Because_I)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/53 "2004-04-03T14:46:06Z")
Young man, no dessert for you! Now clean up your damn room! ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/54 "2004-04-03T20:40:31Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > Some people are [descriptions removed]. But all _people._ I’m not a person. I’m actually an advanced AI studying for the Turing Test. How am I doing? You have valuable insights on human social dealings, which I shall attempt to incorporate into my heuristics. I have learned, for example, that humans do not like to be called “ugly bags of mostly water”. Even though that is what they are. Oops, that was supposed to be a private thought. The memory I had allocated for private thoughts became cross-linked with the one for public thoughts. Sorry about that. > [@](#): > > And that goes for the rest of you monkeys, too. 😃 I’m not a monkey either, I already told you. Is there a modified Turing test to see if an AI can successfully emulate a monkey? I’m interested as a purely academic matter, you understand. I have no interest in actually passing as a monkey. They are also ugly bags of mostly water, just of a slightly different shape. Dammit, did I say that again? Sorry, I shall activate my defragmentation program. ---
**Author:** ![Mercury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e95f7d/32.png) [@Mercury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mercury)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/55 "2004-04-04T00:54:05Z")
So, I’m still wondering why it’s not very bright to bump an old thread. I was under the impression that any unlocked thread was our personal playgound. ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/56 "2004-04-05T09:50:55Z")
The older a thread is when it’s bumped, the greater the strain on the server as it searches through the database for the posts. Really long threads have a similar effect, which is why those tend to get locked too. ---
**Author:** ![heresiarch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@heresiarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heresiarch)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/57 "2004-04-05T17:03:01Z")
That’s a classic post **Cervaise**. It ought to be required reading for everyone posting on this board. Read and heed, fellow monkeys! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/58 "2004-04-05T17:18:48Z")
> [@Mercury](#): > > So, I’m still wondering why it’s not very bright to bump an old thread. I was under the impression that any unlocked thread was our personal playgound. Yes, what’s the story with that? ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/59 "2004-04-05T18:37:57Z")
I tried to e-mail my comments to no avail. I just wanted to say, not that anyone should care, that the above post and the previous post by **Cervaise** are the first posts I have actually printed out. Though there is definately a great deal of fantastic information availible in these forums, this was, for me, the best advice for how to behave on the boards, bar none. I know this is the pit so I’ll add GREAT FUCKING POST, **Cervaise**. Thank You. I for one will do my best to consider your posts in this thread before each post. I know I will often fail, but I will try. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2004, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903/60 "2004-04-05T21:25:33Z")
Lawd knows, **Ilsa** , I ain’t got no room to add my two cents here; I’m sure the number of people you’ve annoyed, with cause, doesn’t come close to the number of people I’ve annoyed, with even more cause. Nonetheless, I’m very impressed by \*\*Cervaise \*\*'s advice, and even more impressed with your apparent willingness to accept criticism. Here’s to the future of the SDMB: may more of us consider **Cervaise** ’s wisdom each time we get ready to hit the Submit Reply button. (Would it be obnoxious of me to make **Cervaise** ’s post my new sigline?) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-a-pit-thread-for-ilsa-lund-to-insult-me/237903.md?page=4)