# I'm starting to hate my iPhone **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 11, 2009, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031 "2009-03-11T02:16:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/21 "2009-03-11T22:01:36Z")
I must be in a different demographic than you. I’m fond of saying “I don’t know when I’m going to buy my next iPhone, but my next phone will be an iPhone.” It’s not perfect, it’s just light years better than everything else in the areas I care about. The UI is _fast_, the mail is _great_, Office integration is painless, and my DNA has been rewritten to the point where iTunes doesn’t bug me. I can’t say I ever used MMS, so I don’t miss it. The cut n paste is a gripe but it’s about a 2 on a 1 to 10 scale. The screen is fantastic, the battery life is fantastic, the included apps are fantastic. The G1…may…get there. But it’s not, and I don’t care to wait for it to get here. For most of my adult life, I’d have a phone for 8 months, get tired of it, and want something ‘better’. I’m kinda depressed as I’ve had my iPhone for 14 months or so and it just does everything I want. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/22 "2009-03-11T22:27:48Z")
Ok. I’m going to go for it. I’m now looking for opinions on the best method for jailbreaking the iPhone. If you point me to a link, I’ll be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Cowboy8467](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Cowboy8467](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowboy8467)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/23 "2009-03-12T16:05:46Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Ok. I’m going to go for it. I’m now looking for opinions on the best method for jailbreaking the iPhone. If you point me to a link, I’ll be fine. A wise choice indeed, as there is almost no risk of bricking your phone when you jailbreak. The only thing that is kind of a pain in the ass is that you have to re-jailbreak anytime you update your phone. This link provides the software and instructions on how to jailbreak your phone. The first link there should be the one you’ll need. Remember, you don’t want to unlock your phone, just jailbreak it. [http://www.iclarified.com/entries/index.php?caid=2&scid=11&seid=2](http://www.iclarified.com/entries/index.php?caid=2&scid=11&seid=2) ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/24 "2009-03-12T23:44:23Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Ok. I’m going to go for it. I’m now looking for opinions on the best method for jailbreaking the iPhone. If you point me to a link, I’ll be fine. Use the iclarified link, and down load the software. The file that has a 77 in it , is for unlocking and as far as I know , you can’t unlock a 3g that way. The only problems you might encounter is putting it in DFU mode, it will give you a count to hold down the home button for a few seconds, and then the home and the power button for another few seconds. On my second try, the DFU bubble popped up on the windows task bar and I had to hit restore in iTunes. If you do have to hit restore , it only takes about 8 or so minutes, it took me longer because I did the restore and then synced it to get back the programs and that took about twenty minutes total, you only need to do the restore at this point. The third time was the charm, and it only took about 4 or 5 minutes to jail break it. One thing that did happen, was that I was re arranging the screen and moving apps to the anchor positions where I wanted them and removing the phone and ipod icons out. The screen went white and did not respond for about 3 or 4 minutes and then booted back up. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/25 "2009-03-12T23:49:05Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Yes, you can. On your iPhone, go into iTunes (which has probably been pushed to your very last page, because it used to be worthless), click “Podcasts” (or click “Search”), find what you need, and add it. I didn’t realize this either. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/26 "2009-03-12T23:57:43Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > 1. No MMS. This is bullshit, flat-out bullshit. I shouldn’t have to tell my friends (let alone, expect them to remember) to email me their camera phone pics instead of texting it, because the iPhone doesn’t support it!! I’m beginning to see their rational sorta, both the native facebook and myspace apps allow you to upload pics, so appple probably assumed that most phones would have a native app for that, making mms obsolete. > [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > 1. No Copy & Paste. Honestly, I used to think this wasn’t that big of a deal and it almost seems cliche to complain about it at this point. Not that much of a deal breaker for me , but it should have been there. Also it should have had obex and stereo bluetooth, both of which the hardware supports , but that would allow you to have root access, oh no cant have that. > [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > 1. Browsing is not a pleasant experience. Sure, it may be one of the best handheld browsers available, but it doesn’t stop it from being a slow, crash-prone pile of ass. I do like the multi-touch zooming, but clicking links is a pain in the ass when your finger overlaps 3 of them at the same time. And the interface just isn’t that responsive, or “snappy,” as Steve would put it. Try loading it up and watch in amazement as it takes the keyboard several seconds to actually start responding to button input, dependent on the page. Very few browser crashes for me. [quote=“Red\_Barchetta, post:1, topic:489031”] 1. Reception sucks ass in San Francisco. In my office building, I get a full 5 bars of 3G reception…yet it doesn’t bloody work! I can’t make calls, nor access the internet! WTF. Elsewhere, my 3G reception drops in and out at seemingly random–it’ll hop from a full 5 3G bars, over to Edge, and back again, and while the iPhone is supposed to handle this transition “seamlessly,” that is rarely the case. And if I switch to Edge, no signal at all–awesome! [QUOTE] Carrier problem , not apple. > [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > 1. Turning Wifi/3G on and off is a pain in the ass. Why oh why could they not have a quick toggle for when I don’t want the iPhone to dick around with finding suitable wifi or 3G signals? Instead I have to traverse a mess of menus to access settings that should be far easier to reach. This is a cell phone designed by computer people, of course its gonna have features. 🙂 > [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > 1. No multi-tasking. I understand the reasons for it, I really do. But it doesn’t stop it from being a complete drag that I can’t listen to Pandora while writing an email, a note, changing my alarms…or anything at all! It sorta multitasks, you can run ipod in the background. > [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > 1. Proprietary charger/file transfer cable. What the hell is this crap? Why do I have to drag this custom cable around with me everywhere I go if I want to charge my device? Again, my Razr was perfectly content to being charged via mini-USB (of which most people now have one readily available), and yet my iPhone isn’t. God forbid you forget the cable before heading out–you’re just plain fucked. I have’nt had the need to do any file transfers away from my computer, but the power cord , I use a iGo recharger , the iphone connecter only cost me 11 bucks. The manufactures of cellphones are supposed to be going with the standard charge cable, but apple is conspicously absent. > [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > I’m sure I’ll be adding to this list shortly, but those are the top 9 issues that sprung to mind. I used to love my iPhone, I really did, but the honeymoon’s over and I’m ready to jump ship. Here’s hoping Palm knocks the Pre out of the park, as it looks like they’ve actually got their shit together. Palm so far is the only company that apple has launched a tactical lawsuit against, based on the phone, seems there is a bunch of apple people working at palm now and may have added some iphone type capabilities. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/27 "2009-03-13T02:37:38Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > Yeah, I don’t get this complaint, either. Syncing is the least efficient method in the known universe - that’s why apple has that big checkbox next to every single sync option to turn it off. Just drag your song/movie/podcast/ringtone from the iTunes library to the iPhone name on the left - done. You don’t even need to add it to the iTunes library first, just resize iTunes (to get it out of your way) and drag the file from your desktop or wherever. I was elated to figure that one out. > [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > 1. Having your iPhone tied to iTunes means I can’t modify the damn thing at all unless I’m at home, by my computer, which is rarely the case. What if I wanted to add a podcast at work for my commute home? Nope, can’t do it. There is also a podcast feed reader called RSS Player Podcast Catcher in the app store for 2.99 which will allow you to subscribe to podcast feeds and download and play them. It is the same as the free jailbroken app called Podcaster, which I use. Mine crashes from time to time, but it works pretty well. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/28 "2009-03-13T04:24:25Z")
> [@Revtim](#): > > Android (T-Mobile G1, more handsets coming soon) has some of these problems solved. It multitasks, uses a standard min-USB cable to charge/file xfer, no iTunes (you can just drag media files into a folder like any file). Dunno if it has MMS. I like the browser, but can’t say if it’s significantly better that the iPhone’s, I know they are both based on WebKit so they are probably pretty similar. It has MMS. It even has a free app that you can use to copy MMS files to your memory card. Most of the apps are free, and the dev kit is platform independent. I’m connecting to the internet through mine right now using a [usb tethering app](http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481162). > [@](#): > > And of course it has its own problems, like shitty battery life, no multi-touch, and others. There’s a 3rd party battery upgrade kit that adds IIRC 2.5x more juice capacity. I personally just put a got a usb power adapter in my car, and carry a usb cable with me. There’s 3rd party firmware that adds multitouch support. It’s in the android code. Google just commented it out for legal reasons. The biggest problem is no stereo headphone jacks, you have to use an adapter, and no bluetooth adp2 support yet. There’s supposed to be an update that adds it next month. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/29 "2009-03-13T08:22:20Z")
> [@Declan](#): > > Carrier problem , not apple. What’s your point? The iPhone is a product of both, and as such, the complaint stands. The party ultimately responsible is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/30 "2009-03-14T06:48:24Z")
Alright, well it seems Apple’s going to unveil version 3.0 of the firmware next week, which is rumored to include MMS. Good! That’s one complaint out of nine down! (assuming it’s true) ---
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/31 "2009-03-14T07:36:25Z")
If you really hate your iPhone, you can always try [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg1ckCkm8YI). ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2009, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/32 "2009-03-15T22:14:22Z")
> [@Red\_Barchetta](#): > > Alright, well it seems Apple’s going to unveil version 3.0 of the firmware next week, which is rumored to include MMS. Good! That’s one complaint out of nine down! (assuming it’s true) Other rumors are Cut and Paste, tethering and multi-tasking. You may start to like your iPhone afterall. ---
**Author:** ![Cowboy8467](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b5e925/32.png) [@Cowboy8467](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowboy8467)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/33 "2009-03-17T19:28:41Z")
Well, if you can hold out until June you’ll get MMS, true Turn by Turn GPS, Copy, Cut & Paste, landscape messaging, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/34 "2009-03-17T19:29:49Z")
> [@Cowboy8467](#): > > Well, if you can hold out until June you’ll get MMS, true Turn by Turn GPS, Copy, Cut & Paste, landscape messaging, etc… You only get all the goodies if you have an iPhone 3G…no MMS or bluetooth stereo headphones for us 1G owners. ☹ (ETA: I’m not bitching, I’m just a little wistful) ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/35 "2009-03-17T19:32:26Z")
I just saw a [writeup](http://www.macrumors.com/2009/03/17/highlights-of-apples-iphone-os-3-0-preview-copy-and-paste-a2dp-mms-much-more/) on iPhone OS 3.0; looks like it has a lot of features we’ve been calling for. Tethering will be a big one; apparently that requires carrier cooperation (why?), so I hope Rogers offers the option. Maybe then I could use up my allotted transfer limit. ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/36 "2009-03-17T19:51:41Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Tethering will be a big one; apparently that requires carrier cooperation (why?), so I hope Rogers offers the option. Maybe then I could use up my allotted transfer limit. Because carriers rely on over-subscribing…that is, promising 5 people 100 bits of data each, on a system that can only move a total of 125 bits. They COUNT on you not using your alloted bandwidth. An iPhone will use a couple hundred Meg a month in normal use…enable tethering and people who aren’t picky may just use that instead of another ISP…I don’t come anywhere NEAR my 200 GB cap at home, but I _do_ consume 50-60 Gb, which is a far cry from my iPhone useage. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/37 "2009-03-17T19:59:37Z")
> [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#): > > Because carriers rely on over-subscribing…that is, promising 5 people 100 bits of data each, on a system that can only move a total of 125 bits. They COUNT on you not using your alloted bandwidth. > > An iPhone will use a couple hundred Meg a month in normal use…enable tethering and people who aren’t picky may just use that instead of another ISP…I don’t come anywhere NEAR my 200 GB cap at home, but I _do_ consume 50-60 Gb, which is a far cry from my iPhone useage. Well, I’d only use it with my laptop when away from home, but yeah, I see what you mean. Rogers does offer network access sticks for laptops at about the same monthly rate as my iPhone data plan, so I was hoping that they could make the iPhone into one. We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/38 "2009-03-17T20:03:52Z")
I sure hope this OP wasn’t posted from an iPhone. I thought about getting one of them fancy, high-priced iWidgets, but then I said to myself, “Chickpea, how many cell phones of yours have been lost/stolen/broken/dropped-in-the-toilet since around this time in 2007?” I sadly replied to myself, “Three.” My current phone cost $60. And I have MMS. ---
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/39 "2009-03-17T22:58:50Z")
> [@Unintentionally\_Blank](#): > > You only get all the goodies if you have an iPhone 3G…no MMS or bluetooth stereo headphones for us 1G owners. ☹ > > (ETA: I’m not bitching, I’m just a little wistful) Oh fear not , I have been perusing the boards regarding the matter and one person mentioned that this may be because of the revenue sharing agreement between ATT and Apple, and not really a hardware issue. To force you to upgrade to a 3g, which would mean all the bennies would go to ATT. Worst comes to worst , you just jailbreak the phone. Declan ---
**Author:** ![Unintentionally\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/unintentionally_blank/32/5418_2.png) [@Unintentionally\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unintentionally_Blank)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031/40 "2009-03-18T00:07:16Z")
I could care less about the MMS…the Bluetooth stereo, on the other hand…it was about the only thing I missed from my WinMo phone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-starting-to-hate-my-iphone/489031.md?page=1)