# I'm Still here - Joaquin Phoenix **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 3, 2010, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517 "2010-09-03T18:42:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/21 "2010-09-12T17:22:21Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Justin\_Bailey](#): > > > > …Further proof it’s a hoax: Joaquin Phoenix is talking to studios about new acting jobs… > > I’m inclined to believe it was a hoax all along, but the fact that he’s now looking for acting work doesn’t necessarily mean that it was. He might just have realized that being a rap artist wasn’t working out (no duh!), and that he’d have to reconsider his decision not to be an actor anymore. And I doubt he’s good at managing money, plus even in the unlikely event he is lots of investments go bad in the best of times, and he has an expensive lifestyle and there hasn’t been much coming in lately (not compared to previous years). ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/22 "2010-09-12T17:24:59Z")
> [@PunditLisa](#): > > > [@Sampiro](#): > > > > Possession of cocaine being a crime- not sure if use qualifies beyond the fact it requires possession of it- are there any possible legal consequences of filming Phoenix using it, either to Phoenix or to Affleck? > > No. They’d need to prove that the substance was, indeed, cocaine and not a movie prop. No way to do that. Out of curiosity, does anybody know what they use as cocaine when a character has to snort it on camera? ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/23 "2010-09-12T18:09:03Z")
> [@DCnDC](#): > > “…the documentary follows the Oscar-nominee as he announces his retirement from a successful film career in the fall of 2008 and sets off to **reinvent himself as a hip hop musician**.” > > That _always_ goes well. But it worked so well for Dee Dee Ramone. Err, uh… ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/24 "2010-09-12T18:48:20Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > But it worked so well for Dee Dee Ramone. Err, uh… [Yeah.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-QveINMwkQ) ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/25 "2010-09-12T18:52:35Z")
If he was in a place where he could know about this, Andy Kaufman might give a shit. ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/26 "2010-09-12T19:10:49Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Out of curiosity, does anybody know what they use as cocaine when a character has to snort it on camera? Finely milled flour? ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/27 "2010-09-12T19:45:20Z")
So Phoenix’s Father is played by someone with the last name Affleck? It must be Ben and Casey’s Dad, doing an acting gig. It’s fake. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/28 "2010-09-13T05:38:22Z")
Not that it’s necessarily representative of the views of others, but I think this is the first movie I’ve ever seen get _zero_ stars in PEOPLE magazine. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/29 "2010-09-13T16:14:13Z")
Phoenix will be back on Letterman [next Wed](http://www.avclub.com/articles/joaquin-phoenix-to-return-to-the-late-show-with-da,45072/) (9/22). ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/30 "2010-09-17T02:44:01Z")
… And it’s been admitted as a fake, to loud snores from the general public: > **[Affleck Admits Documentary Hoax](https://au.lifestyle.yahoo.com/affleck-admits-documentary-hoax-7962508.html)** > > In a candid interview with 'The New York Times' Casey Affleck reveals that 'I'm Still Here' was all just a performance. This whole thing reminds me of Homer Simpson’s line about “isn’t it ironic that the person being chased was caught by the very person who was chasing him”. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/31 "2010-09-17T03:01:51Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Out of curiosity, does anybody know what they use as cocaine when a character has to snort it on camera? Someone else’s cocaine? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/32 "2010-09-17T03:25:51Z")
The enterprise appears to be a gigantic failure. The general reaction to the whole thing has been “meh” or “well, that was irritating.” ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/33 "2010-09-17T04:20:20Z")
Meh Am I the only one here thinking Joaquin wouldn’t even have his current shitty career if it weren’t for his brother dying? With the exception of Ashley Simpson, Paris Hilton, and other pseudo celebrities who are famous only for being famous; I can think of no other celebrity that I care less about. ---
**Author:** ![gladtobeblazed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@gladtobeblazed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gladtobeblazed)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/34 "2010-09-17T04:44:06Z")
I feel ripped off and I haven’t even seen it yet. I wanted it to be real damnit! ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/35 "2010-09-17T05:04:58Z")
> [@gladtobeblazed](#): > > I feel ripped off and I haven’t even seen it yet. This may be my favorite movie review of all time.😃 ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/36 "2010-09-17T09:45:49Z")
That upcoming Letterman interview is going to be fun to watch, in a trainwreck sort of way. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/37 "2010-09-17T12:31:55Z")
Even though it all turned out to be a hoax, did Phoenix ever do any actual rapping during the whole “giving up acting to become a rap star” phase? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/38 "2010-09-17T14:29:35Z")
> [@corkboard](#): > > Even though it all turned out to be a hoax, did Phoenix ever do any actual rapping during the whole “giving up acting to become a rap star” phase? Not in major venues and he didn’t release a CD, but he had some club dates. [NSFW YouTube of a performance in Miami](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3GyM0ss-TY). ---
**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/39 "2010-09-17T14:48:55Z")
> [@Enright3](#): > > Am I the only one here thinking Joaquin wouldn’t even have his current shitty career if it weren’t for his brother dying? Possibly it helped, but I still think he did an outstanding job channeling Johnny Cash. I can’t think of a solitary thing that the Kardashian girls or Paris Hilton or that god awful woman with a boatload of kids did to deserve anyone’s notice. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2010, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517/40 "2010-09-17T15:43:27Z")
[QUOTE=PunditLisa] …or that god awful woman with a boatload of kids did to deserve anyone’s notice. [/QUOTE] The weird thing is you’ve gotta be way more specific. Kate Gosselin? Octomom? Mrs. Dugger? All famous for being godawful women with boatloads of kids. If the media ever completely loses interest in Paris Hilton I expect her to come back by having sextuplets. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-still-here-joaquin-phoenix/552517.md?page=3)