# I'm taking a Glock to NYC. What can I expect?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [September 12, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074 "2011-09-12T17:14:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![WJHamel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ee59a6/32.png) [@WJHamel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WJHamel)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/81 "2011-10-31T19:35:50Z")

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What can you expect, you ask?

Plenty of opportunities to use it.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/82 "2011-10-31T19:58:35Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> Wait a minute…I had absolutely no idea that police powers transfer over from state to state. If the OP is not a New York police officer, why is the situation any different for him than it would be for any citizen coming to New York from another state? Is there some universal agreement among all 50 states that police officers can transfer their right to be armed between states?

My opinion, but I think it was an attempt to codify a specific instance where Article 4, Section 1 would come into play:

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> Article. IV. - The States  
> Section 1 - Each State to Honor all others  
> Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Every state has a legislative definition of a sworn peace officer. For example, in Texas this is [article 2.12](http://law.onecle.com/texas/criminal-procedure/2.12.00.html) of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure. I think this legislation was trying to level the playing field by specifically stating that if your state defines you as a cop, then you’re considered a cop in every state via IV.1.

IANAL, etc. Just seems like common sense to me.

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**Author:** ![Kenny\_Becker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce73a5/32.png) [@Kenny\_Becker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kenny_Becker)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/83 "2011-11-01T03:50:18Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> How would they have known? I didn’t open carry.

You were going to NYC to shop and eat at some nice restaurants, right? I hope you had fun. Anything to recommend? I have been wondering since the beginning of this thread, and now you’ve been here, and everything went well with the Glock and all, so thought I’d ask.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/84 "2011-11-01T05:34:51Z")

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> [@Kenny\_Becker](#):
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> You were going to NYC to shop and eat at some nice restaurants, right? I hope you had fun. Anything to recommend? I have been wondering since the beginning of this thread, and now you’ve been here, and everything went well with the Glock and all, so thought I’d ask.

I’ve been to [NYC](https://picasaweb.google.com/117700629578068464829/October31201103#5669887232611723730) a couple of times, but it has been quite a while since the last time.

We went to a Broadway [show](https://picasaweb.google.com/117700629578068464829/October312011#5669886566024831634) , went into little Italy and [Chinatown](https://picasaweb.google.com/117700629578068464829/November12011#5669889563579777330) went to some wine bars in Manhattan, had some New York [Pizza](https://picasaweb.google.com/117700629578068464829/October31201102#5669885817106826002) and shopped.

I had [Brooklyn Lager](http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/brooklyn-lager/528/) beer for the first time at AYZA Wine & Chocolate Bar. I was surprised how good it was.

And no, I was not carrying my pistol while drunk.

We were not all that impressed with our [hotel](http://www.hotelpenn.com/). But it was in a great location. And the entire trip (Round trip non-stop airfare and 4 nights hotel) only cost me a grand total of $480 ($240 each) including all taxes and fees. So I’m not going to whine too much about the hotel being old, outdated, and run down.

I did have a bit of a fright, though. My wifes knee was starting to hurt from all the walking we did. I stepped off a subway before her and she, in her slowed state, didn’t make the door. I couldn’t get a signal to call her cell phone. All I could think was _“she’s gonna kill me. She’s gonna kill me. Why didn’t I let her go in front of me! Oh God! I’m dead! I am so dead!”_  
A while later she arrived back at that location on the opposite direction train. But instead of being mad she was laughing hysterically. _ **“You should have seen the look on your face as the train closed and left! Your skin turned pale as a ghost! It was a look of sheer horror!It was priceless! Bwaahahaha!”** _

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/85 "2011-11-01T05:43:08Z")

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Oh, and I did not see any “no guns” signs anywhere we went in NYC, with the exception of the airport.

The CCW law in Wisconsin goes into effect today, so I’m thinking there will be some signs up around here, though they won’t apply to me.

[Here](https://picasaweb.google.com/117700629578068464829/October312011#5669785453987118770) is a pretty good sign I saw on a business yesterday.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/86 "2011-11-01T11:56:25Z")

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I was going to advise not to go into any hi rise buildings that had the top two floors under construction, and don’t go to any Xmas parties, even if your wife, Holly, is part of the festivities, but, now, with you back safe…

hh

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/87 "2011-11-01T12:08:22Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> We were not all that impressed with our [hotel](http://www.hotelpenn.com/). But it was in a great location. And the entire trip (Round trip non-stop airfare and 4 nights hotel) only cost me a grand total of $480 ($240 each) including all taxes and fees. So I’m not going to whine too much about the hotel being old, outdated, and run down.\*\*\*

[Ranked 346 of 431 hotels in NYC](http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g60763-d214197-Reviews-Hotel_Pennsylvania_New_York-New_York_City_New_York.html)

[Rated even worse here.](http://www.yelp.com/biz/hotel-pennsylvania-new-york)

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/88 "2011-11-01T13:41:25Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> Oh, and I did not see any “no guns” signs anywhere we went in NYC, with the exception of the airport.

It would be a bit like having a “no live trout” sign. It goes without saying that most people don’t have one on them, in NYC.

ETA: you should have mentioned the Hotel Pennsylvania. I think everyone would have warned you away. It’s really old and crappy. Good location, though.

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**Author:** ![zwede](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ac91a4/32.png) [@zwede](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zwede)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/89 "2011-11-01T23:13:03Z")

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I was going to start a thread on pros and cons of different type of concealed carry holsters (IWB, FBI-style etc), but looking at the anger displayed here I think I’ll skip it.

pkbites: Glad you had a good time and greetings from Texas where we like our guns. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/90 "2011-11-01T23:34:37Z")

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> [@zwede](#):
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> I was going to start a thread on pros and cons of different type of concealed carry holsters (IWB, FBI-style etc), but looking at the anger displayed here I think I’ll skip it.

Feel free to start such a thread (although I’d put it in IMHO rather than GQ).

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**Author:** ![1010011010](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/ea666f/32.png) [@1010011010](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/1010011010)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/91 "2011-11-01T23:36:59Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> Wait a minute…I had absolutely no idea that police powers transfer over from state to state. If the OP is not a New York police officer, why is the situation any different for him than it would be for any citizen coming to New York from another state? Is there some universal agreement among all 50 states that police officers can transfer their right to be armed between states?

Some animals are more equal than others.

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-taking-a-glock-to-nyc-what-can-i-expect/596074/92 "2011-11-02T17:11:26Z")

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> [@1010011010](#):
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> Some animals are more equal than others.

[moderator note]  
That’s enough. **Pkbites** is back from New York, the GQ is answered, and we don’t need any more inappropriate sniping in here. Thread closed, and **1010011010** , save the gun potshots for a different forum.  
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