# I'm tired of being a raccoon: recommend a non-smudging eyeliner. **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [November 2, 2003, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030 "2003-11-02T21:17:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![piaffe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@piaffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piaffe)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/1 "2003-11-02T21:17:20Z")
I’ve used Physician’s Formula (the pencil kind) without a problem until I recently moved to the East Coast. Now, I have huge grey smears under my eyes after a mere two hours. I’ve tried Maybelline Great Wear and Revlon Color Stay, with the same result. Has anyone found a brand of pencil eyeliner that won’t smudge? TIA. ---
**Author:** ![silly\_duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c6cbf5/32.png) [@silly\_duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silly_duck)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/2 "2003-11-02T21:42:51Z")
Too Faced Lava Gloss doesn’t smudge, great for a smoky look. ---
**Author:** ![SanguineSpider](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SanguineSpider](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanguineSpider)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/3 "2003-11-02T22:01:06Z")
Eyeliner is the devil’s playground… just teasin’! I don’t wear it, don’t need it. I guess the change of humidity or something is causing this? Have you thought about the permanent make-up idea? I know a lady who did her eyeliner that way and it looked very good. ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/4 "2003-11-02T22:25:17Z")
Color Stay is what I use and it works great for me… wish I could help. ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2003, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/5 "2003-11-02T23:29:22Z")
Believe it or not, I’ve had very good luck with Avon’s pencil eyeliner. I have no idea what it is called anymore, but you might check it out. On the other hand, I have good luck with Revlon’s Colorstay, too, so YMMV. ---
**Author:** ![bojon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@bojon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bojon)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/6 "2003-11-03T00:19:57Z")
My most recent GF uses a Henna treatment…Just trying to up my posts, sorry… ---
**Author:** ![cherry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cherry)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/7 "2003-11-03T02:22:25Z")
I found Rimmels liquid liner not to smudge as well as MAC’s cake liner that you apply with a brush. Sephora’s own eyeliner in black I found to be the most comfortable creamy liner. ---
**Author:** ![Aankh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Aankh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aankh)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/8 "2003-11-03T07:46:38Z")
A henna treatment as an eyeliner?! What on earth?! ---
**Author:** ![Aankh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@Aankh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aankh)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/9 "2003-11-03T07:48:29Z")
Oh shoot. He’s been banned. Now I’ll never know. _disappointed_ ---
**Author:** ![Sister\_Vigilante](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sister\_Vigilante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sister_Vigilante)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/10 "2003-11-03T13:11:51Z")
To keep eyeliner from smudging, immediately after applying it dust a thick coating of loose powder over it with your finger. Then brush away the excess with a blush brush or something similar. I am a former racoon, the daughter of a racoon, whose eyeliner smudges while I’m still applying it, and I swear by this method. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![piaffe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@piaffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/piaffe)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2003, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/11 "2003-11-04T21:53:47Z")
WOW!! Jean Grey, you have changed my life–that works! Thanks to everyone else who made suggestions. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/12 "2003-11-07T17:30:00Z")
Also, before you powder, use a Q-tip to gently remove the excess liner so it can’t “melt” and run later on. I use a big blush type brush to apply the powder while gently exhaling. ---
**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-being-a-raccoon-recommend-a-non-smudging-eyeliner/211030/13 "2003-11-07T17:40:23Z")
Liquid eyeliner doesn’t run. It takes a few practices to be able to do it well, but it’s great once you get the hang of it.