# I'm tired of Microsoft's bullshit **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 28, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027 "2013-11-28T20:31:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027/21 "2013-12-03T16:35:27Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > IMO, being a dick about competing products doesn’t add anything at all Except market share. I’m with you, it turns me off…but, just like negative political campaigning, it works. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027/22 "2013-12-03T20:22:06Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Except market share. I’m with you, it turns me off…but, just like negative political campaigning, it works. I suppose you’re right, sadly - it’s a numbers game. ---
**Author:** ![James\_Toothpaste](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e56c9b/32.png) [@James\_Toothpaste](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/James_Toothpaste)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027/23 "2013-12-03T22:00:05Z")
> [@Jaymosch](#): > > You should start an online petition. Yes! ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027/24 "2013-12-03T23:33:41Z")
Is the plan to bundle it with that Office that you have to pay for every year because that would be a winning solution. ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2013, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027/25 "2013-12-04T00:11:18Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Is the plan to bundle it with that Office that you have to pay for every year because that would be a winning solution. Yep Microsoft and the other players moving to cloud want to have subscription based models. ---
**Author:** ![TheSeaOtter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ed655f/32.png) [@TheSeaOtter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheSeaOtter)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027/26 "2013-12-11T18:55:26Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > You know I used to be a bit o a Microsoft hater, way back, and a bit of a Google fanboy. Now I am just glad there is still (for now) someone around big enough to stand up to Google. Microsoft can stand up to Google the same way a six-foot-tall plum pudding can stand up to a Volkswagon. It’ll slow everything down, for sure, but it’s not really _doing_ anything. If there is someone around big enough to compete with Google on an equal footing, it’s Apple, not Microsoft. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027/27 "2013-12-11T19:28:59Z")
_Volkswagen_. ---
**Author:** ![sisu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@sisu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sisu)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027/28 "2013-12-12T00:05:08Z")
> [@TheSeaOtter](#): > > Microsoft can stand up to Google the same way a six-foot-tall plum pudding can stand up to a Volkswagon. It’ll slow everything down, for sure, but it’s not really _doing_ anything. > > If there is someone around big enough to compete with Google on an equal footing, it’s Apple, not Microsoft. A couple of points, Microsoft make a lot of money from Google on patents and the word is that they are now courting Samsung etc to build a dual OS set up. This could be a power play, Android for the silly stuff and Windows for the work stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2013, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027/29 "2013-12-12T00:18:32Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > I’m of the opposite opinion. The iPad’s biggest weakness is how ineffectual it is as a productivity tool and the best hope of topping it is making something as easy to use that can also do actual work without the sort of hoop-jumping Apple makes you go thru now. Microsoft would make a ton of money off a version of Office for the iPad, but they’d be gutting their own and everyone else’s chances at beating it some day. Once we get the Android equivalent of Windows 95 and a version of Office that works with it, Apple will be marginalized in the tablet/phone market same as they were with pcs. I love my Surface because it lets me leave my laptop home for some of my business trips. When all I’ll need on the road is email, a browser and Office I can carry the Surface and shave several pounds off my carryon. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-microsofts-bullshit/675027.md?page=1)