# I'm tired of the late night comics beating up on people no longer in the news. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 23, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426 "2009-08-23T21:55:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Never\_Say\_Dice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ee59a6/32.png) [@Never\_Say\_Dice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Never_Say_Dice)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/1 "2009-08-23T21:55:09Z")
What did Kirstie Alley ever do to anybody? She got fat. So did Liz Taylor. Get over it. What did Al Gore do to anybody that makes him a target of fat jokes? Or even boring jokes. He’s not a talk show host, he’s trying to help. Larry King is old. Not news. Dr. Phil is bald. Not his fault. If a person is in the news, like Dick Cheney writing books, then fine, he’s asking for it. But even he should not be reamed daily forever for a hunting accident. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/2 "2009-08-23T22:00:42Z")
Well yeah, but Dick Cheney is the Devil. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/3 "2009-08-23T22:07:22Z")
You had my complete agreement until you said Dick Chaney. Anything short of a war crimes tribunal is better then he deserves. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/4 "2009-08-23T22:13:22Z")
> [@Never\_Say\_Dice](#): > > If a person is in the news, like Dick Cheney writing books, then fine, he’s asking for it. But even he should not be reamed daily forever for a hunting accident. Are you kidding? He shot a guy and the guy he shot is the one who apologized. That kind of potent and scary evil just demands to be joked about until Van Helsing puts a stake into his heart. Wakka Wakka Wakka ---
**Author:** ![Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/13edae/32.png) [@Interconnected\_Series\_of\_Tubes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interconnected_Series_of_Tubes)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/5 "2009-08-23T22:18:02Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Are you kidding? He shot a guy and the guy he shot is the one who apologized. That kind of potent and scary evil just demands to be joked about until Van Helsing puts a stake into his heart. > Wakka Wakka Wakka I lolled. No, really. ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/6 "2009-08-23T22:19:41Z")
If you weren’t allowed to make references to people everybody in the universe no longer cares about, Dennis Miller would be out of a career. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/7 "2009-08-23T22:21:01Z")
Are you sure you’re not watching reruns? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/8 "2009-08-23T22:33:33Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > If you weren’t allowed to make references to people everybody in the universe no longer cares about, Dennis Miller would be out of a career. Wait a minute, he’s still cashing paychecks? Seriously? Far out. ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/9 "2009-08-23T22:41:52Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Wait a minute, he’s still cashing paychecks? Seriously? Far out. He’s on O’Reilly nearly every day explaining why the Liberals _just don’t get it._ ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/10 "2009-08-23T22:44:20Z")
Moved from The BBQ Pit to Mundane Pointless Stuff I Must Share. **Gfactor** Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/11 "2009-08-23T22:53:07Z")
This is the first forum I’ve been to where the mods actually\* do something\* other than closing threads when people disagree with them. Love it. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/12 "2009-08-23T22:57:41Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > if you weren’t allowed to make references to people everybody in the universe no longer cares about, dennis miller would be out of a career. Zing! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/13 "2009-08-23T22:58:49Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > This is the first forum I’ve been to where the mods actually\* do something\* other than closing threads when people disagree with them. > > Love it. Then you’ll go bananas over this: I’m gonna move it to Cafe Society. 😉 twickster, MPSIMS mod ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/14 "2009-08-23T23:04:39Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > Then you’ll go bananas over this: I’m gonna move it to Cafe Society. 😉 > > twickster, MPSIMS mod I feel like I’m caught in a wormhole. I go in a thread on one board, then come out on another. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/15 "2009-08-23T23:16:30Z")
Is Leno still doing O.J. jokes? The guy should have fired his writers about 20 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/16 "2009-08-23T23:21:52Z")
> [@Never\_Say\_Dice](#): > > What did Kirstie Alley ever do to anybody? She got fat. So did Liz Taylor. Get over it. > What did Al Gore do to anybody that makes him a target of fat jokes? Or even boring jokes. He’s not a talk show host, he’s trying to help. > Larry King is old. Not news. Dr. Phil is bald. Not his fault. > > If a person is in the news, like Dick Cheney writing books, then fine, he’s asking for it. But even he should not be reamed daily forever for a hunting accident. As a long time viewer of Conan, I would be willing to bet money that there was some fued or ugly past personal incident between Conan (or one of his writers) and Kirstie Alley… She has been the butt of 100’s of incredibly mean spirited, vulgar, hateful jokes over the past 10 years or so, way WAY beyond the usual (already typically cruel) level of harshness that the average celebrity would be subject to. I think Conan has been harsher on her than OJ, Cheney and Paris Hilton combined, and I dont get it------Does anyone know why the level of harassment is so magnified on Kirstie Alley? PS—I dont know anything about KA except that she is supposedly a Scientologist----I am not trying to garner sympathy for her, as I dont care about her (or most any other washed up actress/celebrity/attention whore) but Conan is SO brutal towards her compared to others, I am certain its personal, not just another comedic easy target. What gives? ETA I am not imagining this am I? Any other longtime Conan fans notice this? ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/17 "2009-08-23T23:41:26Z")
I haven’t heard anything like that, but late night writers and sitcom writers interchange often, and Alley strikes me as the kind of actress who would drive writers crazy with her ego trips (Roseanne was famous for that). Maybe she angered some writers on Veronica’s Closet, who then went on to write for Conan. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/18 "2009-08-23T23:44:40Z")
Carson always went after Wayne Newton and I know he got pretty ticked off about that. And most of that time Newton was just a Vegas lounge act. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/19 "2009-08-23T23:46:11Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Is Leno still doing O.J. jokes? The guy should have fired his writers about 20 years ago. Leno’s not doing anything. Hasn’t he moved to afternoons? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426/20 "2009-08-23T23:48:12Z")
Paris Hilton must not mind Conan since she was on his show soon after he moved to LA - she showed up as some special welcoming girl. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-tired-of-the-late-night-comics-beating-up-on-people-no-longer-in-the-news/507426.md?page=2)