# "I'm Too Busy To Play This" Mafia

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [February 25, 2012, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978 "2012-02-25T18:02:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/41 "2012-02-29T17:19:59Z")

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Ok then, put me on the list. Like I said, I can’t promise to be a good player, but I will try to at least keep up.

Don’t disappoint me pizzaguy. This shit better be nuts.

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**Author:** ![gnarlycharlie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/5f9b8f/32.png) [@gnarlycharlie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnarlycharlie)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/42 "2012-02-29T18:01:42Z")

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> [@Askthepizzaguy](#):
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> Given the basically unanimous popularity of option 7, even in spite of my “hey… it’s gonna be insane… R U SURE?” I absolutely have to do option 7 now. It’s not even an option to do others.

it will be a baptism of fire for Mosier and any other [del]fresh meat[/del] new players who are joining.

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**Author:** ![GuiriEnEspana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc79bd/32.png) [@GuiriEnEspana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuiriEnEspana)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/43 "2012-02-29T19:30:49Z")

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7, really?

/in, please

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/44 "2012-02-29T21:42:38Z")

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Just for future reference, the local term for something closely approximating your option 7 is a “gasterd game”. The term comes from a game where one player claimed to have a posting restriction of not being allowed to use the letter B, and said that the host was a real gasterd for doing that.

For instance, there was one game within the past couple of years where _everyone_ was a Serial Killer with the win condition “Everyone dies, or you’re the last man standing”. The win scenario, then, would have been for the last three to figure this out and kill each other cyclically (A kills B, B kills C, C kills A). They _did_ figure it out, but one of those last three tried to backstab and didn’t follow the plan, resulting in a single player (not the backstabber) winning.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [February 29, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/45 "2012-02-29T23:00:12Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Just for future reference, the local term for something closely approximating your option 7 is a “gasterd game”. The term comes from a game where one player claimed to have a posting restriction of not being allowed to use the letter B, and said that the host was a real gasterd for doing that.
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> For instance, there was one game within the past couple of years where _everyone_ was a Serial Killer with the win condition “Everyone dies, or you’re the last man standing”. The win scenario, then, would have been for the last three to figure this out and kill each other cyclically (A kills B, B kills C, C kills A). They _did_ figure it out, but one of those last three tried to backstab and didn’t follow the plan, resulting in a single player (not the backstabber) winning.

Actually, the original term was “gastard”, since bastard has no letter ‘e’. (Originated by Drain Bead who used the moderator supplied false claim of the Ventriloquist in Arkham Knights. The post restriction was actually written in as part of the cover role to follow the flavor of the actual character in the comics. Drain Bead decided to roll with it, except she screwed up a few times which led to her falling under suspicion since she wasn’t being punished for her supposed restriction.)

The “gasterd” thing originated with me in the very all-serial killer game you mention. I named it “Inblourious Gasterds” (AKA Kill 'Em All False Flip Mafia) in honor of the movie Inglorious Basterds which was still in theaters combined with the “gastard” meme originated by Drain Bead. To be fair, the base idea was not an original by me. It was something a meatspace friend of mine who plays mafia on another online board pointed out to me. It had been run on his board. (Though, I tweaked it a bit, and the cover roles chosen and their descriptions were all decided by me, with color that essentially insulted every mafia role out there.)

I still have fond memories of running that game. Though it was amusing how all the participants managed to do nothing but take out the false vanilla covers. (I mean, there were something like 8 or 10 players whose false flips were vanilla, and 7 of them are the first to die. I think I calculated the odds on that as something like 25,000 to one against.)

And then Normal Phase accidentally posted the trick to the game thread rather than the spoiled thread.

Good times.

ETA: That game also spawned the signature line I use at Idle Mafia. After watching the players come up with all sorts of ideas of what was going on that made the game bastard, I mentioned on the spoiled boards how I have come to realize that players’ imaginations inflict much worse bastardness on themselves than anything moderators do.

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**Author:** ![Normal\_Phase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Normal\_Phase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Normal_Phase)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/46 "2012-03-01T01:28:06Z")

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Yeah, maybe Pizza shouldn’t spoil me for this one. 😃 I still kinda want to go hide under a rock for that.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/47 "2012-03-01T01:46:02Z")

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Naturally, I vote 7, too.

Go nuts, buddy. I challenge you to blow us all away.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/48 "2012-03-01T04:10:26Z")

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> [@gnarlycharlie](#):
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> it will be a baptism of fire for Mosier and any other [del]fresh meat[/del] new players who are joining.

Fire is the best kind of baptism.

It’s also a pretty good way to cook pork.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/49 "2012-03-01T04:14:30Z")

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All right, what the hell.

/in

The cray-cray games are the most fun anyway from a pure amusement standpoint.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/50 "2012-03-01T07:56:01Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Just for future reference, the local term for something closely approximating your option 7 is a “gasterd game”.

I know. I’m trying to make a game that is playable, within the realm of fairness, and will make sense at least after it is explained.

I don’t want to make a rigged, unplayable, stupid game, just for the sake of crazy. And yet, I do want to meet the challenge of mad creativity. We’ll see what I come up with.

I need moar victims.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/51 "2012-03-01T10:40:20Z")

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> [@Normal\_Phase](#):
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> Yeah, maybe Pizza shouldn’t spoil me for this one. 😃 I still kinda want to go hide under a rock for that.

I want you to post an “/In” message here, Ms. Phase.  
Please? 😉

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/52 "2012-03-01T14:27:30Z")

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1. Mahaloth
2. Drain Bead
3. Suburban Plankton
4. Mosier
5. Scathach
6. Fubbleskag
7. Astral Rejection
8. Gadarene
9. PetW
10. Brewha
11. gnarlycharlie
12. NAF1138
13. septimus
14. GuiriEnEspana
15. Inner Stickler  
I must say, smashing group so far.

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/53 "2012-03-01T15:39:39Z")

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Need roughly 10 more for a good minimum for a solid game.

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**Author:** ![LightFoot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@LightFoot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LightFoot)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/54 "2012-03-01T15:43:22Z")

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I am too busy to play.  
But I will check in atleast every 24 hours  
heck my schedule may even open up some days  
/in

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/55 "2012-03-01T21:35:25Z")

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I haven’t even read the rules but I want in!

I hope it is playable and fun, I need fun!

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/56 "2012-03-01T21:41:08Z")

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When I first played Mafia on the “big” boards", I didn’t know anyone, how much nicer it is to play with people you have met time and again in the game. I am looking forward to this. I still might change my name to Flaky Jan though 🙂

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/57 "2012-03-01T22:34:40Z")

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@ **Pizzaguy** - Based on advice from a Doper, I’ve installed _Tor_, an anonymizing browser, and can now use it to access [quicktopic.com](http://quicktopic.com) from the Land of Smiles.

So feel free to use that site for secret boards, if you like …

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**Author:** ![Silver\_Jan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/90ced4/32.png) [@Silver\_Jan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silver_Jan)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/58 "2012-03-01T22:41:24Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> @ **Pizzaguy** - Based on advice from a Doper, I’ve installed _Tor_, an anonymizing browser, and can now use it to access [quicktopic.com](http://quicktopic.com) from the Land of Smiles.
> 
> So feel free to use that site for secret boards, if you like …

Hah, that is so over my head, you Know you will be scum next time 😛

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**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/59 "2012-03-02T04:03:32Z")

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I have no idea if I want to be in this game or not (especially since I seem to be the kiss of death for Town). But I do want to type this:

**vote septimus**

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-too-busy-to-play-this-mafia/613978/60 "2012-03-02T04:07:09Z")

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Please join, choie. I’m pretty sure you have fun in these games.

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