# I'm TRYING to hate her, but god help me I think she's hot.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 23, 2006, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722 "2006-07-23T17:30:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/61 "2006-07-24T20:12:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Robot Arm]  
Jennifer Love Hewitt. Wicked cute, but I don’t know if she has two brain cells to rub together.  
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Ditto.

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**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/62 "2006-07-24T20:14:34Z")

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[QUOTE=ddgryphon]  
Ditto.  
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Ditto again.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/63 "2006-07-24T20:30:31Z")

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See, now, these threads are always a little goofy, because people immediately start posting the names of people who are all multi-millionaires on account of being incredibly beautiful. What you’re really looking for in the genre of “people I probably shouldn’t be attracted to” are names like Condoleeza Rice.

Just for example.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/64 "2006-07-24T21:00:07Z")

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Esquire magazine’s annual “Women We Love” issue has one page in it featuring “Women we’re ashamed to love.” Condoleezza Rice and Natalie Merchant are two favorites of mine from there.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/65 "2006-07-24T21:27:10Z")

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Ann Coulter is just not attractive. Her only nice quality is her hair, she’s just. Not. Pretty. Actually kind of ugly.

Same with Paris Hilton. Just goofy looking. Sure, she’s not actively ugly, she’s vaguely pretty in the way all healthy young women are. But she’s certainly not in the top 10%.

Whenever I hear people talking about how attractive these two are, I just can’t understand it.

Brittney Spears however, really is beautiful, especially when she isn’t allowed to dress herself or put on her own makeup. Yeah, she’s dumb as a post and makes Tanya Harding look like a Duchess. But she’s very pretty and you can imagine she’d work hard to please, she’s got that needy quality about her. Brittney might be dumb, but she doesn’t seem DULL like the previous two.

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**Author:** ![Broken\_Wind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Broken\_Wind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broken_Wind)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/66 "2006-07-24T21:44:09Z")

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I want me a Shannon Doherty and Tiffany-Amber Thiessen sandwich. Just once.

What can I say? I’ve got a thing for the evil ones.

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/67 "2006-07-24T21:48:01Z")

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Awright, I gotta confess this. Maybe if I do I can live with the shame.

Pamela Anderson-(whatever-the-Hell-the-rest-of-her-surname-is-now).

She’s an inflatable plasticine skank, but I’ll be goddamned if I wouldn’t hit it in a heartbeat.

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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/68 "2006-07-24T22:30:02Z")

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
Same with Paris Hilton. Just goofy looking. Sure, she’s not actively ugly, she’s vaguely pretty in the way all healthy young women are. But she’s certainly not in the top 10%.

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Have you seen the video? The video helps quite a bit.  
(Not saying I’d hit that, except maybe with a truck or a massive load of antibiotics, but I understand.)

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**Post date:** [July 24, 2006, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/69 "2006-07-24T23:13:26Z")

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[QUOTE=Annie-Xmas]  
Dharma and/or Greg. Jenna Elfman is the female Tom Cruise, and Thomas Gibson is a one-note actor, but I consider both of them hot.  
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I knew I was forgetting someone obvious. I thought Jenna was all that until I learned about her…leanings. She still makes for lovely eye-candy, though.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/70 "2006-07-25T00:36:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Lemur866]  
Ann Coulter is just not attractive. Her only nice quality is her hair, she’s just. Not. Pretty. Actually kind of ugly.

Same with Paris Hilton. Just goofy looking. Sure, she’s not actively ugly, she’s vaguely pretty in the way all healthy young women are. But she’s certainly not in the top 10%.

Whenever I hear people talking about how attractive these two are, I just can’t understand it.  
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We’re conditioned to assume any blonde celebrity must be beautiful. Ann Coulter is the perfect example; laying aside any political considerations, she’s really, really ugly. Not quite as ugly as, say, Janet Reno, but far uglier than Phyllis Diller. There is no man on earth who, if he just met her in a bar and didn’t know she was a celebrity, would think she wasn’t a hideous dog.

Paris Hilton isn’t ugly, but in any given medium sized high school she wouldn’t be one of the fifty prettiest girls. Nicole Ritchie, before she went anorexic, was much prettier.

But since they’re presented to us as celebrities, there seems to be this emperor’s-new-clothes conditioning that guys all say they’re hot.

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**Author:** ![ddgryphon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8c91f0/32.png) [@ddgryphon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ddgryphon)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/71 "2006-07-25T01:08:44Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
We’re conditioned to assume any blonde celebrity must be beautiful. Ann Coulter is the perfect example; laying aside any political considerations, she’s really, really ugly. Not quite as ugly as, say, Janet Reno, but far uglier than Phyllis Diller. There is no man on earth who, if he just met her in a bar and didn’t know she was a celebrity, would think she wasn’t a hideous dog.  
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As someone noted elsewhere, she bears an uncanny resemblance to a Whippet, which I’ve never heard of before, but good lord, I want to see her papers she looks so much like one.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/72 "2006-07-25T01:54:21Z")

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Yeah, Ann Coulter’s pretty hideous. But there are plenty of hot political pundit babes around. How about:

[Laura Ingaham](http://images.radcity.net/5152/571625.jpg)

[Monica Crowley](http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050208/050208_monica03.widec.jpg)

[Nora O’Donnell](http://radio.weblogs.com/0107064/MyImages/norahodonnell.jpg)

[Stephanie Miller](http://www.pulsetc.com/hottickets/stephanie-miller.jpg)

[Kim Komando](http://www.3wiradio.com/photos/personalities_34.jpg)

[Campbell Brown](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/brownsept8.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/nbc/aftermath_beyond_frustrating_for_brown_25639.asp&h=240&w=320&sz=17&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=aaHPkYMrKhsMAM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcampbell%2Bbrown%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2004-35,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN)

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/73 "2006-07-25T12:11:35Z")

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Melanie Griffith. She’s really a babe, but dumb as a post (and if you ever have the chance to see her “act” on stage, DON’T. I still gag when I think of her in “Chicago”).

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/74 "2006-07-25T17:20:09Z")

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[QUOTE=RickJay]  
We’re conditioned to assume any blonde celebrity must be beautiful. Ann Coulter is the perfect example; laying aside any political considerations, she’s really, really ugly. Not quite as ugly as, say, Janet Reno, but far uglier than Phyllis Diller. There is no man on earth who, if he just met her in a bar and didn’t know she was a celebrity, would think she wasn’t a hideous dog.

Paris Hilton isn’t ugly, but in any given medium sized high school she wouldn’t be one of the fifty prettiest girls. Nicole Ritchie, before she went anorexic, was much prettier.

But since they’re presented to us as celebrities, there seems to be this emperor’s-new-clothes conditioning that guys all say they’re hot.  
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I think the fact that they’re thin and blond is a big part of it. The thin=beautiful thing has gone a bit too far; I think.

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**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/75 "2006-07-25T17:35:15Z")

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Shepard Smith.

His voice is just liquid sex and he always looks like he is in on some dirty little joke and has to wait until he is off camera to laugh.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/76 "2006-07-25T17:42:54Z")

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I’m ashamed to second Emenem.

Every time he opens his mouth I’m horrified, but damn is he a hottie.

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**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/77 "2006-07-25T17:47:16Z")

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Or Eminem even. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/78 "2006-07-25T17:57:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Sam Stone]  
Yeah, Ann Coulter’s pretty hideous. But there are plenty of hot political pundit babes around. How about:[Campbell Brown](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/original/brownsept8.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/nbc/aftermath_beyond_frustrating_for_brown_25639.asp&h=240&w=320&sz=17&hl=en&start=6&tbnid=aaHPkYMrKhsMAM:&tbnh=89&tbnw=118&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcampbell%2Bbrown%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26c2coff%3D1%26rls%3DGGLD,GGLD:2004-35,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN)  
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Since when is Campbell Brown a pundit?

She’s quite lovely, though. Last year, when she was covering Hurricane Katrina in one of those idiotic let’s-have-the-reporter-stand-outside-in-the-storm bits, I found myself wanting to yell, “What the hell is wrong with you, NBC? Campbell is NOT EXPENDABLE! Send \*\*Katie \*\* out there!”

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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/79 "2006-07-25T18:05:30Z")

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But was her hair billowing in the wind?

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-hate-her-but-god-help-me-i-think-shes-hot/365722/80 "2006-07-25T18:09:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Loopydude]  
But was her hair billowing in the wind?  
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Every response I can think of to that remark (except for this one) is egregiously sexist, chauvinistically objectifying, and generally Neanderthalic, so I’m going to just whistle.

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