# I'm trying to think of a band name...

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**Created:** [July 31, 2001, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315 "2001-07-31T07:00:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2001, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/1 "2001-07-31T07:00:25Z")

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…one that already exists, I mean; not trying to create one. It’s a sociological or psychological term, like Corrosion of Conformity or Suicidal Tendencies, but it’s not either of those.

Last night, when Mr. Rilch, Friend and I were at Friend South of Here’s house, catching our breath after a massive barbecue orgy (the reason I was making the sweet potato pie), we discussed, among many other things, the tendency people have never to learn anything on their own. I was recounting a conversation I’d had with some cow-orkers a year or so ago. I’d used this term, whatever it is, and someone said, “You can’t use band names to make your point; be serious!” So I had to explain that this term had already existed, and the band must have known what it meant when they chose it, but by the time I’d established that, the original point had been lost.

Whatever it is, it’s one of those industrial/goth/anarchy groups. Anyone? Bueller?

(And yes, I know industrial, goth, and anarchy are different phenomena, but I’m talking about the genre of **music** that appeals to all such groups.)

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2001, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/2 "2001-07-31T07:17:18Z")

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Um…Rage Against the Machine?

I have no idea. Industrial/goth/anarchy groups aren’t my cuppa.

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**Author:** ![11811](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/9d8465/32.png) [@11811](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/11811)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2001, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/3 "2001-07-31T11:46:47Z")

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Social Distortion?

Zeitgeist?

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**Author:** ![berdollos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ed8c4c/32.png) [@berdollos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/berdollos)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2001, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/4 "2001-07-31T11:51:07Z")

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Sinchronicity  
Bandage  
Avantguard  
3rdmillenium  
the fourth strike  
frenzy

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**Author:** ![FarmerOak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@FarmerOak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FarmerOak)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2001, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/5 "2001-07-31T13:36:35Z")

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Cognitive Dissonance?

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2001, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/6 "2001-07-31T14:58:09Z")

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The Beatles?

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2001, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/7 "2001-07-31T15:17:39Z")

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Cradle of Filth?  
Greivous Bodily Harm?  
Lubricated Goat?

Rammstein? \<-- is it rammstein? it’s rammstein, isn’t it? Rammstein? Was it that?

Coal Chamber?  
Fear Factory?  
Static X?  
Slipknot  
Mudvayne  
Godhead  
Crossbreed?

I can go on for days, but nothing’s going to be what you’re talking about.

jarbaby

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 31, 2001, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/8 "2001-07-31T15:28:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \*  
> \*\*  
> Rammstein? \<-- is it rammstein? it’s rammstein, isn’t it? Rammstein? Was it that? \*\*

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the sound of jarbaby creaming her jeans thinking about Rammstein.

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**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/9 "2001-08-01T00:46:06Z")

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[Homer Simpson]

“Mmmmmmm…jean cream…”

[Homer Simpson]

[sub]Sorry, but it had to be done. I just didn’t want anyone else to have to do it…[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/10 "2001-08-01T00:49:32Z")

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Widespread Panic?

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/11 "2001-08-01T02:10:57Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Chrome Spot \*  
> \*\*Social Distortion?
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> Zeitgeist? \*\*

Probably Social Distortion. I should have said that it was a name made up of two or three words, not one; it was a phrase. My cow-orkers and I had been talking about the then-current school shooting in Paducah; I can see how I could have used that phrase as it’s meant, not as a band name.

Thanks, all!

Does “Rammstein” mean something?

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/12 "2001-08-01T05:15:45Z")

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Rilch,

While I enjoyed this OP, it just didn’t have enough of Mr. Rilch in it, and left me wanting. He sort of got lost at the edges of the frame.

🙂

I was gonna suggest the Kentucky Headhunters.

Sir Rhosis (President of the Mr. Rilch Posts Fan Club)

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**Author:** ![Sir\_Rhosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@Sir\_Rhosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_Rhosis)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/13 "2001-08-01T05:18:58Z")

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But I do like this new trend of discussing “cow-orkers.” 🙂

In jest, I am your friend,

Sir Rhosis

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/14 "2001-08-01T05:47:48Z")

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Well, I didn’t make up “cow-orkers”. I don’t remember who did, but it was a reg, circa 1999.

As far as Mr. Rilch, he suggested Social Distortion at first; it didn’t sound right, but now I’m accepting it by default. He’s developing a reflex of, whenever I have a question he can’t answer, or he has one I can’t answer, saying, “Why don’t you ask your Straight Dope pals?”.

I’ll keep ‘em comin’!

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/15 "2001-08-01T06:03:29Z")

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Agnostic Front?

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**Author:** ![silent\_rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@silent\_rob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silent_rob)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/16 "2001-08-01T07:52:29Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> \*\*Does “Rammstein” mean something? \*\*

According to a cool German kid at the World Camp (guys & gals from 15-20) I was a councilor at, it is the name of a village in Germany. The reason for it’s use is that this village hosts an air-show every year, and about ten years ago there was a big accident. Several jets crashed together and about 5000 people were killed. They added the extra “M” to the name out of respect for those who perished. The word means “Ramming Stone” in English.  
He also explained to me the whole wedding-thing with “Du hast” (the actual translation is very different from the English version that played over here).

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**Author:** ![Flymaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c4cdca/32.png) [@Flymaster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flymaster)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/17 "2001-08-01T12:20:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> **Well, I didn’t make up “cow-orkers”. I don’t remember who did, but it was a reg, circa 1999.**

That is, AFAIK, a Scott Adams term, from his Dilbert Newsletter, probably volume 4 or 5. They’re available in an archive at [Dilbert.com](http://Dilbert.com), and are truly good literature.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/18 "2001-08-01T14:22:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by silent\_rob \*  
> According to a cool German kid at the World Camp (guys & gals from 15-20) I was a councilor at, it is the name of a village in Germany.

Golly silent\_rob, my one area of expertise and you come right in and steal my thunder! 🙂

For more information on Rammstein, consult your local jarbaby! The song Rammstein, by Rammstein is a graphic retelling of the airshow incident at the airforce base, and in fact, the band didn’t have a name until after they wrote that song and decided that it sounded good because of the double meaning (flaming air show death and battering rams).

They really like double meaning, as illustrated by Du Hast (You have or You hate, depending on what you want the song to mean)

jarbaby

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/19 "2001-08-01T17:50:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by silent\_rob \*  
> \*\*
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> > [@](#):
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> > \*Originally posted by Rilchiam \*  
> > \*\*Does “Rammstein” mean something? \*\*
> 
> He also explained to me the whole wedding-thing with “Du hast” (the actual translation is very different from the English version that played over here). \*\*

**Rammstein** sings in English? Really? I was wondering how they managed to get popular enough in the US to have **Jarbaby** name her kids for them.  
BTW, the data I have says that 70 people died, which now sounds familiar, vs 5000, which I assume was hyperbole. Of course either number is quite tragic.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2001, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-think-of-a-band-name/74315/20 "2001-08-01T17:58:50Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \*
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> **Rammstein** sings in English? Really? I was wondering how they managed to get popular enough in the US to have **Jarbaby** name her kids for them.

They don’t release singles in English, and their popularity was initiated with a German language song, but the Sehnsucht album comes with two secret tracks which are Du Hast and Engel in German.

They also do a cover of Stripped by Depeche Mode in English, but that’s the only English you’ll hear at a concert.

ALSO, they won’t do interviews in English. And they feel it’s a tribute to their popularity:

“We know we’ve conquered America when we can do our interviews in German”

But they can all speak English…

very well.

jarbaby

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