# I'm trying to understand why this thread got closed **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 9, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292 "2022-09-09T20:36:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/1 "2022-09-09T20:36:07Z")
> [@TJHSST Admissions process illegally discriminates against asians (UPDATE)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/tjhsst-admissions-process-illegally-discriminates-against-asians-update/960375/67): > > Modnote: Do not accuse other posters of being trolls except in the Pit. This is bordering on a warning but you have a clean record, you inquired if it was an issue along with other flag(s) that came in and I’m going to leave this thread closed. It never should have been bumped and only causes problems. @damuriajashi, you are being formally instructed not to bump controversial threads over a month later with 0 value posts like this one: This dumpster fire is remaining closed. I am assuming you are referring to the sea lion cartoon when you say you almost issued a warning. Does everyone get away without a warning for a clear violation or only the ones with “clean records”? If that’s the case then how does anyone with a clean record ever accrue a warning? Because it really seems like the prosecutorial grace is given out along partisan lines. I didn’t “bump” this thread, sometimes I take months to come back here. I responded a month after the most recent post because I don’t live on this board anymore because the political discussion here has largely become an echo chamber for the radical left who think that mainstream democrats are borderline fascists or at least quislings. How is this a bump but there were like 4 months between the 2nd post in March and the 3rd post in July not a bump? How is a responding to a people who keep insisting they have a point but refuse to make it a “zero value post” pointing out that sort of bullshit is very valuable. Here, I am calling out a poster that alleges that I am ignoring something but when asked for evidence, implies that I am pestering them… on the thread that I started. Meanwhile when I report posts for attempted derailing with discussions about transgenderism and the virginia governor’s election, I am told to feel free not to respond to it. The moderation here used to make this one of the smarter places on the internet and now it’s like a step and a half above the yahoo boards. This place is really going to shit. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/2 "2022-09-09T21:04:57Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > Does everyone get away without a warning People get Notes rather than warnings all the time. But - notes add up too. > [@damuriajashi](#): > > Because it really seems like the prosecutorial grace is given out along partisan lines. If by “partisan lines” you mean “troublesome posters vs not troublesome posters”, yeah. And? > [@damuriajashi](#): > > I didn’t “bump” this thread, sometimes I take months to come back here. That you have a reason, poor as it is, doesn’t make it not a bump. > [@damuriajashi](#): > > How is this a bump but there were like 4 months between the 2nd post in March and the 3rd post in July not a bump? That _was_ a bump. _ **By you** _. Not exactly helping your own case by pointing out it’s a habit of yours. Because that’s exactly what you’re now being told not to do. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/3 "2022-09-09T21:34:27Z")
> [@](#): > > People get Notes rather than warnings all the time. But - notes add up too. It was a pretty clear violation. > [@](#): > > If by “partisan lines” you mean “troublesome posters vs not troublesome posters”, yeah. And? By partisan I mean left vs right, clearly. Unless you think ideology is what makes a poster troublesome. > [@](#): > > That you have a reason, poor as it is, doesn’t make it not a bump. I thought a bump is generally non-substantive made solely for the purpose of moving a conversation to the top. A substantive post is not what I would consider a bump (regardless of your opinion of how valuable the post is). > [@](#): > > That _was_ a bump. _ **By you** _ . Not exactly helping your own case by pointing out it’s a habit of yours. Because that’s exactly what you’re now being told not to do. Yes and noone was bothered by that. They were only bothered when I called out baseless accusation of not answering questions by posters that don’t answer questions. So what made that particular thread a dumpster fire? That thread was mostly just linking news items until a bunch of jackholes came by to shit on the thread. Are you really going to give these sort of people a veto on which threads get to stay open? ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/4 "2022-09-09T21:49:05Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > People get Notes rather than warnings all the time. But - notes add up too. The mods have denied this for years, IIRC. Has something changed? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/5 "2022-09-09T21:49:40Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > It was a pretty clear violation. People get Notes for clear violations all the time. > [@damuriajashi](#): > > By partisan I mean left vs right, clearly. Troublesome leftists also get warned, and I’m sure there are RW posters who’ve never been modded. > [@damuriajashi](#): > > Unless you think ideology is what makes a poster troublesome. No, I think personality is. > [@damuriajashi](#): > > I thought a bump is generally non-substantive made solely for the purpose of moving a conversation to the top. No, it’s anything that does that, if the thread is old enough. > [@damuriajashi](#): > > A substantive post is not what I would consider a bump There was nothing substantive about your post, it was just you hassling GIGO about - let’s just highlight this again - _ **a month-old post.** _ > [@damuriajashi](#): > > Yes and noone was bothered by that. You have no idea what people were or weren’t bothered by. All you know is that it didn’t lead to moderation … _that_ time. > [@damuriajashi](#): > > So what made that particular thread a dumpster fire? Personally, I think it was the OP only returning to it whenever it suited them to throw fresh fuel on coals that had long since died down to embers. But that’s just IMO. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/6 "2022-09-09T21:54:07Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > The mods have denied this for years, IIRC What I recall them saying is that Notes aren’t a permanent record like Warnings are, that’s all. Have they denied that they take any past non-Warning moderation into account? How would that stack up with the “I’ve already Noted you in this thread, now it’s a Warning” moderation they clearly do? I do know with the move to Discourse, they have more tools to note troublesome posts and posters to other mods even if they haven’t been warned. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/7 "2022-09-09T21:56:30Z")
That’s my memory, but I’m sure a mod will be in shortly. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/8 "2022-09-09T22:29:15Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > That you have a reason, poor as it is, doesn’t make it not a bump. > > I thought a bump is generally non-substantive made solely for the purpose of moving a conversation to the top. I think you (@damuriajashi) are right about that, as per the [SDMB rules](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/reorganized-sdmb-rules/968857): > [@](#): > > **Thread bumping**. Thread bumping – that is, posting a short message solely to get a thread moved to the top of the thread list – is permitted once per thread only. Thanking thread participants for their contributions does not count as thread bumping. However, some people seem to also call it a “bump” when a thread is revived for any reason after lying dormant for awhile. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/9 "2022-09-09T22:29:21Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > By partisan I mean left vs right, clearly. Unless you think ideology is what makes a poster troublesome. Most of the people I can think of who have been banned in recent memory, if they expressed a political opinion, were left-leaning. Now, the majority of the board itself is left-leaning, so that would make sense. I am certainly not suggesting a moderation bias against people on the left. ---
**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2022, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/10 "2022-09-09T22:49:28Z")
The thread’s closing is consistent with guidelines **What\_Exit** previously gave to you. > [@Is there a criteria for closing threads?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-there-a-criteria-for-closing-threads/931701/2): > > If the thread has been around for awhile (usually months) and it is down to a few principles yelling at each other and generating flags; we’ll probably close it. > > Please take a look at the GD and P&E rules: > > [New Rules for Great Debates and Elections – January 2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-rules-for-great-debates-and-elections-january-2020/845726) > > This will give you a feel for what guides us to some degree. ~Max ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/11 "2022-09-10T00:26:19Z")
You are asking the same set of folks who make the judgements to see the judgements in a different way? ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/12 "2022-09-10T00:29:15Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > I thought a bump is generally non-substantive made solely for the purpose of moving a conversation to the top. And that’s exactly what the mod decided you had done. Your post had negligible substance. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/13 "2022-09-10T00:32:26Z")
> [@damuriajashi](#): > > I responded a month after the most recent post because I don’t live on this board anymore because the political discussion here has largely become an echo chamber for the radical left who think that mainstream democrats are borderline fascists or at least quislings. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it possible to set your preferences to have the SDMB notify you via email when your post has been replied to, so you don’t have to “live on this board anymore”? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/14 "2022-09-10T01:10:57Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it possible to set your preferences to have the SDMB notify you via email when your post has been replied to, so you don’t have to “live on this board anymore”?  Yup. Profile\>\>Preferences\>\>Emails Don’t forget to save changes. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/15 "2022-09-10T03:39:46Z")
> [@](#): > > There was nothing substantive about your post, it was just you hassling GIGO about - let’s just highlight this again - _ **a month-old post.** _ Unless there is some rule saying that Gigo gets to say the last word unanswered, that is not hassling. that is asking him to identify the alleged posts that he thinks I am avoiding. > [@](#): > > You have no idea what people were or weren’t bothered by. All you know is that it didn’t lead to moderation … _that_ time. You have any evidence for that or are you just theorizing? > [@](#): > > Personally, I think it was the OP only returning to it whenever it suited them to throw fresh fuel on coals that had long since died down to embers. But that’s just IMO. Your opinions are pretty bad… ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/16 "2022-09-10T03:40:50Z")
Wait so there is a double secret probation function on straight dope now? ROFLMAO ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/17 "2022-09-10T03:44:02Z")
I think a lot of the right leaning people were banned or left a long time ago. The politics part of this site is the far left arguing with the extreme left for the most part. There is no real discourse in that arena. I don’t mean to come back and just point out this glaring issue but every time I come back the issue has only gotten worse. Well all good things must come to an end I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/18 "2022-09-10T03:50:52Z")
Here’s the problem with that. it gives a few people the ability to veto discussions and threads. When you have a topic where the folks on the left are the assholes (like anti-asian discrimination in high school and college admissions), folks on the radical left thread shit and get the thread closed down by making the thread “problematic” They tried to derail that thread several times. In a thread about high school admissions, transgender issues and the governor’s election in virginia were raised a few times in what appeared to be an attempt to derail the thread. When I reported it, I was told to feel free to not respond to the off topic posts. If I go into a thread and bring up antii-asian bias in college admissions where the discussion of this bias is relevant, I am immediately moderated and told not to talk about it. That is uneven moderation. ---
**Author:** ![damuriajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac8455/32.png) [@damuriajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/damuriajashi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/19 "2022-09-10T03:54:13Z")
Thanks for this. I have had my setting on this for a while but I get notified inconsistently and unreliably. " Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned, or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags or topics only when away" ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2022, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292/20 "2022-09-10T03:58:11Z")
I think a lot of the right-leaning people got it into their heads, from watching their leaders, that rules were for rubes, but that might not have been the best policy to follow on this particular message board. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-trying-to-understand-why-this-thread-got-closed/971292.md?page=2)