# I'm watching ST: The Next Generation from the beginning

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 27, 2012, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-watching-st-the-next-generation-from-the-beginning/614181 "2012-02-27T20:20:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-watching-st-the-next-generation-from-the-beginning/614181/121 "2012-03-14T22:28:37Z")

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Just wanted to re-quote this from earlier. Wil Wheaton also understands the Wesley hate and where much of it comes from:

> [@silenus](#):
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> You really have to read Wil Wheaton’s [take on the episode](http://www.aoltv.com/2008/04/28/star-trek-the-next-generation-code-of-honor/).

Here’s the money portion of that particular review:

[QUOTE=Wil Wheaton]  
A full day goes by, and they still haven’t heard anything from the planet. Picard is understandably concerned about the welfare of his chief of security, so it’s the perfect time for the doctor to pay him a visit and pester him to allow Wesley to come hang out on the bridge.

You know, because the last time Wesley was on the bridge everything went so well, and in the middle of a crisis is the perfect time to – OH SWEET JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT THE HELL WAS WRONG WITH THE WRITERS?!

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Wesley has been ordered to stay off the bridge by the captain, but really really really wants to come hang out with the adults. Also, he’s kinda sitting on the turbolift (holding the Door Open button for the last three minutes, I guess) and waiting, so maybe Picard could just let him, you know, come hang out.

Picard says, “Are you out of your fucking mind? My chief of security got kidnapped and taken down to the planet and we haven’t heard from her in over a day, you idiot! Of all the times in the world to drag your annoying little wunderkind up here, you picked now? What are you smoking, and why didn’t you bring me any? Get out of here, and take Mary Sue with you!”

Nah, I’m just kidding. He invites Wesley to sit at ops. Next to Geordi. In the middle of a major crisis.

My god, a lot of the hate mail I used to get suddenly makes a whole lot of sense. I have never been more grateful that there wasn’t liveblogging in 1987 as I am right now.  
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**Author:** ![Antigen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/848f3c/32.png) [@Antigen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Antigen)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-watching-st-the-next-generation-from-the-beginning/614181/122 "2012-03-14T22:56:56Z")

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> [@chrisk](#):
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> I liked the girls from blonde-world in ‘Justice’ 😃 But even way back then, it didn’t take me long to spot the giant plot hole in terms of how the Prime Directive is addressed in the plot:
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> "No, we won’t beam Wesley up from your holding cell to our ship, even though we can and you’re wink-wink-nudge-nudge saying that you can’t stop us, because THAT would be _interfering in the development of your society._ But we can’t abandon Wesley to his death either.
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> “So what will I do? I will stay here and argue with you about your philosophy of justice until you agree that your entire society’s approach to crime and punishment is wrong and you agree to hand Wesley back willingly.”
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> (No, that couldn’t possibly interfere in the development of your society! What are you talking about?)

Not only that, but the Prime Directive means they should _never have even interacted with these people at all_! Why were they on the planet?

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**Author:** ![Illuminatiprimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/illuminatiprimus/32/11520_2.png) [@Illuminatiprimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Illuminatiprimus)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-watching-st-the-next-generation-from-the-beginning/614181/123 "2012-03-14T23:08:51Z")

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> [@Antigen](#):
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> Not only that, but the Prime Directive means they should _never have even interacted with these people at all_! Why were they on the planet?

That’s the bit that really baffles me. It’s made clear that the Prime Directive means no interaction with societies too lacking in advancement to be able to properly understand the Federation and relate to them as equals. In that particular episode I don’t think the natives had even gone into space, what possible reason would you have to be interacting with them? Maybe other races had already started contact with them, I don’t know, it was ages since I saw it.

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-watching-st-the-next-generation-from-the-beginning/614181/124 "2012-03-15T13:53:55Z")

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> [@Illuminatiprimus](#):
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> That’s the bit that really baffles me. It’s made clear that the Prime Directive means no interaction with societies too lacking in advancement to be able to properly understand the Federation and relate to them as equals. In that particular episode I don’t think the natives had even gone into space, what possible reason would you have to be interacting with them? Maybe other races had already started contact with them, I don’t know, it was ages since I saw it.

They thought the other spaceship was a God!

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/im-watching-st-the-next-generation-from-the-beginning/614181/125 "2012-03-15T16:06:41Z")

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> [@Illuminatiprimus](#):
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> That’s the bit that really baffles me. It’s made clear that the Prime Directive means no interaction with societies too lacking in advancement to be able to properly understand the Federation and relate to them as equals. In that particular episode I don’t think the natives had even gone into space, what possible reason would you have to be interacting with them? Maybe other races had already started contact with them, I don’t know, it was ages since I saw it.

Um, hello?

Smoking’ hot space babes. I’d violate a couple of directives.

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