# Images from movies that you don't see in the movie

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**Created:** [September 12, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906 "2007-09-12T15:01:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/21 "2007-09-12T19:01:31Z")

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I just thought about the scene in _Children of Men_ where the ex-midwife described the first realizations of world-wide infertility. A very sad moment both in her recollection and in her retelling.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/22 "2007-09-12T19:37:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Robot Arm]  
Not quite what the OP is asking about, but related.

There’s a sequence I remember from _Reservoir Dogs_. Tim Roth is describing how he first went under cover and infiltrated a gang. He’s talking about the preparation and the guy who was teaching him. And the scene shifts to a flashback of them, and they’re inventing a whole backstory for Roth as a criminal; stories about being in jail and such. And then we see him with the gang, and he’s telling one of those stories. The scene shifts again, so we see what he was just describing. It’s really nicely done, and it wasn’t until I thought about it later that I realized that we saw on screen something that never really happened; that even inside the movie was made up.  
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I came in to mention this movie. As I recall,

[spoiler]Roth is telling his gangster pals his “amusing anecdote” about what went wrong on his drug deal, when he stumbled across the cops and the dog in the bathroom. This is all made up to give him gangster cred. But we see the scene he’s describing. One of the characters in Roth’s anecdote is a cop, who is telling an “amusing anecdote” of his own, about him pulling over the guy who won’t keep his hands on the wheel. That story is really vivid (“Buddy, I’m gonna shoot you _in the face_ …” and the “real sexy Asian bitch” and so on) even though we don’t see the pulling-over scene.

So, inside Roth’s completely made up story (that we do see), is a guy telling a story (which we don’t see). [/spoiler]

That was one of my favorite parts in the movie.

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**Author:** ![E.Thorp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@E.Thorp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E.Thorp)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/23 "2007-09-12T19:43:31Z")

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[QUOTE=Beadalin]  
**In the Company of Men** has one particularly stomach-turning scene in which each man describes the best sex he’s ever had. A sociopathic character fondly describes anally raping a schoolmate in the locker-room shower.

It certainly stuck with me, though I wish it hadn’t.  
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Right director (Neil LaBute), wrong movie. It was **Your Friends and Neighbors**.

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/24 "2007-09-12T19:44:38Z")

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Pulp Fiction: Christopher Walken’s monologue about his and Bruce Willis’ father’s experience in a Vietnam POW camp, and where he put the watch.

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/25 "2007-09-12T19:45:06Z")

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Sorry – I’d been wondering if I screwed that up.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/26 "2007-09-12T20:09:49Z")

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[QUOTE=sciurophobic]  
Pulp Fiction: Christopher Walken’s monologue about his and Bruce Willis’ father’s experience in a Vietnam POW camp, and where he put the watch.  
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That was a great scene and great imagery. As a bonus, it was related as a flashback from when Butch was a kid. .

Same movie, just after the near rape in the dungeon, this exchange paints a very vivid image of what will happen with no need to show it.

[after Butch saves Marsellus from rapists]  
**Butch** : You okay?  
**Marsellus** : Naw man. I’m pretty fuckin’ far from okay.  
**Butch** : What now?  
**Marsellus** : What now? Let me tell you what now. I’ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin’ niggers, who’ll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin’, hillbilly boy? I ain’t through with you by a damn sight. I’ma get medieval on your ass.  
**Butch** : I meant what now between me and you?  
**Marsellus** : Oh, that what now. I tell you what now between me and you. There is no me and you. Not no more.

[More Quotes from Pulp Fiction](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/quotes)

Jim

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**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/27 "2007-09-12T20:52:01Z")

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My favorite is _My Dinner With Andre_. It’s Wallace Shawn (better known as Vinzzini) and Andre Gregory (better known as… I don’t know, I think of him as Andre) having dinner in a restaraunt in New York and talking about things. Andre paints these incredibly vivid pictures with words of these fantastic things that he’s seen and done and after you’re done watching you have this vague feeling that you saw it all on the screen. Of course, you haven’t seen anything but Andre and Wally munching away at dinner.

I saw this a few years ago at a screening with both Wallace Shawn and Andre Gregory and afterwards they talked about the movie and with the audience. It was amazing. Both of them have a very strong presence and, between the movie and the question and answers, did a two man show that lasted almost three and a half hours. There was a script but it was edited out of real conversations that the two had had and it shows.

Here’s an excerpt of the Q&A:

Q: Um… Andre, I was wondering how much of the stories you tell are–  
Andre: All of them.  
Q: --true?  
A: It’s all true.  
Q: Buried alive?  
A: Really happened.  
Q: Thank you.

Tenebras

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**Author:** ![Beadalin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Beadalin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beadalin)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/28 "2007-09-12T21:03:05Z")

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In **Smoke** , Harvey Keitel’s character tells a marvelous story about visiting an old woman on Christmas day, intending to return the wallet of her grandson. He tells it wonderfully, and the camera rarely leaves his face during the story. It’s just like listening to someone tell a story in real life – you watch the teller’s face while picturing what they describe. Neat.

Now, it turns out the movie does show this story (sans sound, but with a Tom Waits song playing) during the closing credits, so you do see it, but in a way that just underscores how well the story was told.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/29 "2007-09-12T22:24:16Z")

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> Same movie, just after the near rape in the dungeon, this exchange paints a very vivid image of what will happen with no need to show it.

Am I mistaken in assuming that the guy actually WAS raped? I thought it was pretty obvious by his reaction.

ETA: [WIKI](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulp_Fiction_(film)) supports this interpretation.

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/30 "2007-09-12T22:28:36Z")

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I assumed that, as well.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/31 "2007-09-12T22:33:50Z")

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[QUOTE=olivesmarch4th]  
Am I mistaken in assuming that the guy actually WAS raped? I thought it was pretty obvious by his reaction.

ETA: [WIKI](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulp_Fiction_(film)) supports this interpretation.  
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They showed the rape. The other poster just meant that they didn’t show Marsellus’s revenge on the “hillbilly” guys who raped him. It was going to be bad, though.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2007, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/32 "2007-09-12T22:53:26Z")

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> They showed the rape. The other poster just meant that they didn’t show Marsellus’s revenge on the “hillbilly” guys who raped him. It was going to be bad, though.

Yeah, that definitely leaves one with a bad and vivid mental image.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/33 "2007-09-13T00:17:35Z")

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My favorite one:

In one of the Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker **Naked Gun** movies, where they show every sight gag, no matter how contrived or silly, there’s one where Frank Drebbin (Leslie Nielsen) goes into a restaurant and asks the waiter for “The Strongest thing you’ve got”. Out come a couple of really over-muscled guys. Frank changes his mind “Just give me a Black Russian.”  
The waiter turns to the camera, looks the viewer straight in the eye, and shakes his head, unlistakeably saying by that gesture “We coulda dressed up a black guy in a Russian outfit, but you’ve already figured this one out, and there’s no way we’re gonna actually do it.”

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/34 "2007-09-13T01:37:49Z")

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If we can include television shows, in the Firefly episode “War Stories” Zoe tells a fairly graphic and short story about trench warfare, starving soldiers, apples, and very small pressure-sensitive grenades that go “pop”. Basically, she was explaining why she and Mal, both veterans of the Unification War, habitually slice their apples before eating them.

Another good example from TV is from Due South, a Canadian buddy-cop show from the mid-90’s. In the episode “The Deal”, Detective Vecchio tells Constable Fraser about an incident when he was a kid where the school bully (who would later become a local Mafia boss) smashed a kid’s face against the pavement with a basketball over and over again for losing a basketball game while the kid looked to Vecchio for help, while Vecchio looked on passively.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/35 "2007-09-13T01:57:32Z")

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> [@What Exit?](#):
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> Marsellus: What now? Let me tell you what now. I’ma call a coupla hard, pipe-hittin’ niggers, who’ll go to work on the homes here with a pair of pliers and a blow torch. You hear me talkin’, hillbilly boy? I ain’t through with you by a damn sight. I’ma get medieval on your ass.

Tarantino took the pliers and blow torch line from the movie [Charley Varrick](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Varrick).

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> Maynard Boyle: You need a rest, Harold. A long trip to someplace quiet. Another name, another country.  
> Harold Young: I can’t start my life over again now.  
> Maynard Boyle: You don’t have much choice, Harold. They’re gonna try to make you tell where the money is. You know what kind of people they are. They’re gonna strip you naked and go to work on you with a pair of pliers and a blowtorch.

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**Post date:** [September 13, 2007, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/images-from-movies-that-you-dont-see-in-the-movie/418906/36 "2007-09-13T02:05:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Uosdwis R. Dewoh]  
Tarantino took the pliers and blow torch line from the movie [Charley Varrick](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Varrick).  
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I never heard of the that movie, sounds interesting from the wiki article.

Thanks

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