# Imagine no teabaggers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 21, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529 "2010-07-21T23:55:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/81 "2010-07-22T18:03:30Z")
> [@Duke](#): > > Often amusingly so. There’s a car I often walk past which has a number of Tea Party-friendly stickers (including one supporting the doomed gubernatorial campaign of Carl “HORSE PORN” Paladino). It’s also got one sticker ridiculing global warming activists…and another castigating Big Oil and offshore drilling. Funny and sad at the same time. Is there a smilie for that? 😃 + ☹ = 😕 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/82 "2010-07-22T18:05:09Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Race isn’t a choice. There are no intrinsic qualities to being Black or Hispanic, other than phenotypic ones. Political ideology, on the other hand, says a hell of a lot about you as a person. I dunno . . . I think it’s largely one of those things about your personality that is shaped by the cultural environment in which you were raised. You **can** make a conscious break with all that, just like you can break with your background religion, but it ain’t easy psychologically. I think most people, even most intelligent people, even most intelligent people seriously interested in politics, are not political intellectuals of any kind and do not examine their own ingrained political assumptions very critically very often. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/83 "2010-07-22T18:51:36Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I think most people, even most intelligent people, even most intelligent people seriously interested in politics, are not political intellectuals of any kind and do not examine their own ingrained political assumptions very critically very often. So? Willful ignorance isn’t my fucking problem. And you’re treading awfully close to moral relativism there. “It’s how they were raised, so it’s not their fault.” The same argument could be used to excuse owning slaves or FGM. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/84 "2010-07-22T19:01:35Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > So yes, I want them to die. They are nothing more than a lynch mob bound together by shared hatred and fear. “Look, there goes a lynch mob, bent on attacking people based on the ways in which they’re different from themselves!” _Pause_ “Let’s kill them!” ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/85 "2010-07-22T19:04:05Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > “Look, there goes a lynch mob, bent on attacking people based on the ways in which they’re different from themselves!” > > _Pause_ > > “Let’s kill them!” :dubious: What, without preliminary torture?! Have you no heart?! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/86 "2010-07-22T19:55:12Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I don’t how you get that impression. Back in Clinton’s day, the right wing smear machine was still getting assembled. The internet was a mere shadow of its present self. There weren’t massive anti-Clinton rallies and the Republicans weren’t quite so much in lockstep opposition. I don’t recall any astroturf movement in opposition to Clinton or anyone saying he wasn’t one of us. There aren’t “massive” anti-Obama rallies _today_. They’re pretty sad, really. Other than that, I have to wonder how you could forget the “impeach the communist pervert Clinton as soon as we can find something” movement that Fox, Scaife, and the rest of the RW smear machine, that you claim was “still getting assembled”, somehow succeeded with. There were still a few GOPpers in Congress that they hadn’t yet intimidated into lockstepping, true, but there are a few today too. But I really would prefer to have your memories instead of my own. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/87 "2010-07-22T20:00:21Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > :dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious::dubious: How many news shows from that period do you remember that did NOT include the name “Lewinsky”? ---
**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/88 "2010-07-22T20:09:30Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Political ideology, on the other hand, says a hell of a lot about you as a person. Do you mean, like, wishing a significantly large group of people who you don’t agree with were dead and gone? ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/89 "2010-07-22T20:32:06Z")
Look, can we just agree that idiot extremists are always going to make noise and point their fingers at opponent idiot extremists? Also, often people in a popular movement don’t pay attention to all the fine details of said movement. There are lots of normal, moderate people who support PETA, for example, because hey, they’re for animal rights. They’ve probably never heard the crazy that Ingrid Newkirk preaches. Likewise, there are probably lots of people who think, “Gee, we need a smaller goverment”, and so they call themselves Tea Partiers, and they’re blissfully ignorant of the stupid going on in their name. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/90 "2010-07-22T21:09:38Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > How many news shows from that period do you remember that did NOT include the name “Lewinsky”? They at least waited 'til Clinton did something vaguely improprietous. They didn’t immediately start _making shit up_, e.g., about him being a foreigner. > [@pkbites](#): > > Do you mean, like, wishing a significantly large group of people who you don’t agree with were dead and gone? I have no problem with you disliking me for loathing humanity. Also, I object to your use of the indefinite article there. I don’t wish “\*\*a \*\*significantly large group of people who \* don’t agree with were dead and gone.” I wish \*\*all \*\*groups of people whom I don’t agree with were dead and gone. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/91 "2010-07-22T22:22:10Z")
I love the teabaggers! Thanks to them, Harry Reid is going to win reelection, something thought impossible just a few moths ago. The same thing is happening in Florida, where it’s likely that an independant will win the senate seat who may or may not caucus with the Democrats. Colorado will likely retain the Governorship and a Senate seat in Democratic hands due to teabagger candidates winning in primaries. Hell, the Dems might even take Kentucky if Rand Paul keeps spouting off his crazy ideas. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/92 "2010-07-22T22:37:12Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > They at least waited 'til Clinton did something vaguely improprietous 😛 Thanks for the laugh. Did you spend the 90’s in an alcoholic haze or something? > [@](#): > > They didn’t immediately start _making shit up_, e.g., about him being a foreigner. Not a foreigner exactly, no, but a traitor, communist, pervert, even serial murderer, oh my, yes, indeedy. You could look it up. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/93 "2010-07-22T23:04:13Z")
> [@Stoneburg](#): > > Why death? Why not just imagine they voluntarily moved to an isolated island that was exactly the kind of society they wanted to live in. Your classic Fate Worse Than Death. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/94 "2010-07-22T23:07:02Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > They at least waited 'til Clinton did something vaguely improprietous. They didn’t immediately start _making shit up_, e.g., about him being a foreigner. Well, they made shit up about him killing people. Of course, Obama killed his own grandma. And Clinton was accused of all sorts of sexual improprieties with women. Of course, Obama is accused of sexual improprieties with drug-addict men. And Clinton’s wife was called a bitch and a shrew. Of course, Obama’s wife is called an ape and a monkey and a communist. I thought the hatred of the Clintons was extreme… until I saw the hatred for the Obamas. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/95 "2010-07-22T23:30:53Z")
> [@Stoneburg](#): > > Why death? Why not just imagine they voluntarily moved to an isolated island that was exactly the kind of society they wanted to live in. And they’re very happy there and let’s not talk about this any more, all right? If you’re very good, there **might** be some Libertarians under the Christmas tree this year. But none of the big long-haired breeds, understand? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/96 "2010-07-23T00:17:01Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I am hereby saying this. I am also saying that you are a douche. And yet you give no reason. What exactly, would be the loss if they vanished off the earth (or, even better, fell to the ground bleeding from all orafices). Two pages in, and still nobody can justify the existance of these retards. Why, besides lovey-dovey “we’re all god’s creatures” bullshit, does society benefit from their presence. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/97 "2010-07-23T00:21:36Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Here’s the irony…conservatives have been doing the same thing about liberals (and greens, and lefties, etc etc) for decades now. Many of them feel exactly the same way about YOU and YOU feel about THEM. Here’s the difference, dipshit: the progressives are right. Conservatives ARE, by objective fact, racist, sexist, homophobic intolerant, ignorant, hateful, vile scum. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/98 "2010-07-23T00:27:08Z")
> [@Stoneburg](#): > > Would the world be better off without pedophiles? Yes. Do I want to kill all pedophiles. No, because that would be a worse crime. Agreed? I don’t want to kill all pedophiles because I would go to jail. If I could kill one and not get caught… why the fuck wouldn’t I? Unless maybe if that pedo makes some kind of social contribution that exceeds the harm his kiddy-diddling does, he has no right to live. Ditto the teabaggers. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/99 "2010-07-23T00:57:30Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > I don’t want to kill all pedophiles because I would go to jail. If I could kill one and not get caught… why the fuck wouldn’t I? Because you might be wrong. And because vigilantism isn’t good for society. Societies that can’t or don’t enforce bans on private killing tend to end up with murder being their primary cause of death. There’s no doubt plenty of people who think that you should be killed for some real or imagined sin. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/100 "2010-07-23T01:35:09Z")
Why would anyone support a political party based on constant lies and ignorant leadership? I’m not criticizing those who support the Second Amendment. But it is a little Wild West to come armed to a demonstration. And I agree that people in this country are free to hold whatever opinions they want. _But why knowingly spread vicious lies?_ I don’t get it. If you believe it, say it. But don’t make stuff up. That corrupts the democratic process. Why portray Obama as a Nazi when he is nothing like a Fascist at all? And what is with the persistence of the Birthers? They look rediculous. How can any of you defend them? I understand how some of you can be Conservatives. But you weren’t brought up to be _stupid_. > [@](#): > > **xtisme** : In the mean time I have to admit that I’m enjoying the show! I know your kind. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529.md?page=6)