# Imagine no teabaggers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 21, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529 "2010-07-21T23:55:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/101 "2010-07-23T01:40:23Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > I notice that nobody trying to say that these scum dying off _wouldn’t_ be a good thing. These scum dying off would not be a good thing, as they are human beings with loved ones who will miss them. Calling for the death of large numbers of people is odious. It appears that **The Facts** is a homicidal apologist. I condemn the OP: the perspective therein reflects no recognizably legitimate morality. It is at best a rather lame joke. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/102 "2010-07-23T01:57:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Teabaggers are not comparable to liberals or conservatives. They are a just fringe loonies. They don’t even really have an articulable ideology or platform. They don’t stand FOR anything, they are defined purely by hysterical opposition to Obama. When you get past the racism, the birth certificates, the antichrist paranoia, the Bible thumping, the gun fetishism, the homophobia, etc., there’s nothing left. They are nothing but an aggregation of religious and social issue cranks, conspiracy theorists, racists and morons. They do not actually have a platform or a philosophy or a strategy or a solution to anything. Their entire _raison d’etre_ is hating Obama. They don’t have any policy proposals or alternate ideas, just personal animosity towards the President. > > At least the liberals hated Bush for a REASON. Just because you are too stupid to understand the reason why the Tea Partiers hate Obama doesn’t mean they don’t have one. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/103 "2010-07-23T02:02:24Z")
Oh, I understand the reason. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/104 "2010-07-23T02:12:25Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Oh, I understand the reason. No you don’t. You don’t even understand that men, as well as women, have pubic hair. You’re quite far from understanding anything beyond the mundane details of your daily life and stuff about the Bible you learned in college. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/105 "2010-07-23T02:14:28Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Because they are unreasonable, and because compromise with rightwingers doesn’t work. The Democrats and now Obama have been making that mistake for years; trying to reason with lunatics and compromise with the uncompromising only leads to disaster. I’ve tried having discussions with these teabaggers at their rallies and the problem is that every last one of them were 200% sure about the things they believed. They all had piles of data, but there was always one piece of incorrect data that made their entire position wrong. A big one was convincing people that Tarp was passed under Bush. When I pulled out my iphone to show them the TARP wiki page, they resorted to the “well I’m not a Republican either, we need to get rid of all of them (but starting with the Democrats)” > [@tomndebb](#): > > Calling an entire movement racist when there is little evidence that the movement, as opposed to a few notable members, even cares about race, is dumb. Its more than one or two isolated incidences. A lot of them are just pissed off because white privelege doesn’t mean what it used to but there are more than a handful of full on racists at their tax day rallies. > [@xtisme](#): > > If nothing else, then having them alive to say stupid shit and to discredit them should have some appeal. Yes there is that. > [@xtisme](#): > > No, I saw them calling him a Nazi, as well as all the other LEFT wing push buttons. Different strokes for different folks, but it all equates to the same thing. I think there is a difference between screaming NAZI!!! and threatening his children and toting guns. Don’t you? > [@kidneyfailure](#): > > The Tea Partiers and right-wing fringe groups are stupid pieces of shit…but so are the left-wing fringe. Let’s be honest and admit that, huh? At the same time I have trouble equating people protesting a war in Iraq (which I believe was the driving force behind all that crap) to people protesting a black Democrat in the White House for stuff that was done before he was inaugurated, or stuff that the Republicans were going to do as well, or stuff that he stated he would do as soon as he took office. > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No. The left-wing fringe are **intelligent** pieces of shit. That’s just the difference. 😉 > [@kidneyfailure](#): > > [http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush](http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/20/media-didnt-care-about-protest-signs-threatening-bush) > > Enjoy! Yep, crazies on both sides but I have the advantage of walking past a lot of these on my lunch break and the teabaggers are worse on a per capita basis. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/106 "2010-07-23T02:25:51Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > so they call themselves Tea Partiers, and they’re blissfully ignorant of the stupid going on in their name. So they are cognizant enough of tea parties to know they want to be part of it but they haven’t seen any of the stuff that seems to be plastered across the papers about the gun toting at Presidential speeches and the racism? > [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > I love the teabaggers! Thanks to them, Harry Reid is going to win reelection, something thought impossible just a few moths ago. The same thing is happening in Florida, where it’s likely that an independant will win the senate seat who may or may not caucus with the Democrats. Colorado will likely retain the Governorship and a Senate seat in Democratic hands due to teabagger candidates winning in primaries. Hell, the Dems might even take Kentucky if Rand Paul keeps spouting off his crazy ideas. Well shit, when you put it that way. You make it sound like they are usurping the Republican primaries but unable to deliver win in the general elections. OMFG, what if a bunch of liberals in open primary system voted for the tea party candidate in the Republican primary? > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > 😛 Thanks for the laugh. Did you spend the 90’s in an alcoholic haze or something? Not a foreigner exactly, no, but a traitor, communist, pervert, even serial murderer, oh my, yes, indeedy. You could look it up. Yeah but they weren’t marching down Constitution Avenue calling him a traitor and a murderer. > [@The\_Facts](#): > > Here’s the difference, dipshit: the progressives are right. > > Conservatives ARE, by objective fact, racist, sexist, homophobic intolerant, ignorant, hateful, vile scum. They’re not vile scum, not all of them. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Just because you are too stupid to understand the reason why the Tea Partiers hate Obama doesn’t mean they don’t have one. I thought we went over this. We all understand why they hate Obama. He’s a Democrat, he’s black and he was actually born in Kenya. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/107 "2010-07-23T02:34:23Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I thought we went over this. We all understand why they hate Obama. He’s a Democrat, he’s black and he was actually born in Kenya. That’s just all you understand because that’s all you are capable of understanding. Maybe October will shake some of cobwebs out of your dumb ass. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/108 "2010-07-23T02:35:19Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > That’s just all you understand because that’s all you are capable of understanding. Maybe October will shake some of cobwebs out of your dumb ass. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal. October? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/109 "2010-07-23T02:39:03Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > October? Er, November. Sorry, I’m getting ahead of myself. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/110 "2010-07-23T04:07:53Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > This is a thought experiment. Imagine a virus, like ebola, started getting passed among the teabag parties. It was 100% fatal to everyone over the age of 18, but was not contagious, so they did not spread it to other people. So in the period of a couple weeks, all the teabaggers were gone. Wouldn’t America be better off? > > Some say it would be a bad thing, since there are going to be some doctors and useful people like that among them, but I say this wouldn’t be a problem because there would also be less patients, so less need for doctors. The people who are disproportionaly represented in the teabaggers are all useless elements to society: religious idiots, racists, and morons. (I know, I’m repeating myself) If there was some magic way to eliminate the dross from society, that would be a great thing – wouldn’t it? Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. I have read some truly ignorant shit here on the Dope, but that took the cake. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/111 "2010-07-23T04:34:09Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. > > I have read some truly ignorant shit here on the Dope, but that took the cake. Dude, what’s the poor horse got to do with his shit!!! ---
**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/112 "2010-07-23T04:58:56Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Teabaggers are not comparable to liberals or conservatives. They are a just fringe loonies. They don’t even really have an articulable ideology or platform. They don’t stand FOR anything, they are defined purely by hysterical opposition to Obama. When you get past the racism, the birth certificates, the antichrist paranoia, the Bible thumping, the gun fetishism, the homophobia, etc., there’s nothing left. They are nothing but an aggregation of religious and social issue cranks, conspiracy theorists, racists and morons. They do not actually have a platform or a philosophy or a strategy or a solution to anything. Their entire _raison d’etre_ is hating Obama. They don’t have any policy proposals or alternate ideas, just personal animosity towards the President. > > At least the liberals hated Bush for a REASON. Holy shit, I agree with Dio. ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/113 "2010-07-23T05:43:51Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > These scum dying off would not be a good thing, as they are human beings with loved ones who will miss them. Calling for the death of large numbers of people is odious. It appears that **The Facts** is a homicidal apologist. I condemn the OP: the perspective therein reflects no recognizably legitimate morality. It is at best a rather lame joke. For those who don’t believe in magic, the connection between “hoping for death” and “homicide” is less clear. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/114 "2010-07-23T05:55:28Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > For those who don’t believe in magic, the connection between “hoping for death” and “homicide” is less clear. Explicitly wishing for someone’s death is but a small step removed from a call to violence. You don’t need to believe in magic to peer through this rather flimsy veil. But hey, if Mr. Facts wishes to qualify his remarks, he should right? ---
**Author:** ![Condescending\_Robot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a183cd/32.png) [@Condescending\_Robot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Condescending_Robot)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/115 "2010-07-23T06:09:28Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Explicitly wishing for someone’s death is but a small step removed from a call to violence. In the way that yelling “fuck you” on the highway is a small step from rape. This confusion between idle words and criminal actions is infantile. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/116 "2010-07-23T06:45:05Z")
> [@Condescending\_Robot](#): > > In the way that yelling “fuck you” on the highway is a small step from rape. This confusion between idle words and criminal actions is infantile. Infantile? Look up “Death threat” in wikipedia, and you can see that perps often write with thinly veiled code, not that the OP is launching a death threat himself. No, he was saying, gee it wouldn’t be a bad thing if people I don’t like just died-- if you know what I mean +\. This is unhinged talk radio stuff. It’s not hard. Calls for the death of thousands are outside the bounds of civilized discussion. Your example of a profanity is laughable: there are clearly distinctions between explicatives and declarative statements – and the OP wasn’t just swearing. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 9:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/117 "2010-07-23T09:42:35Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > That’s just all you understand because that’s all you are capable of understanding. Maybe October will shake some of cobwebs out of your dumb ass. I doubt it, but hope springs eternal. To be fair, he’s also an ultra-liberal Muslim socialist Nazi who wants to raise your taxes and take away your guns, and the only reason that there’s no actual evidence for any of that is because he’s cleverly biding his time until America’s guard is down. ---
**Author:** ![Stoneburg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@Stoneburg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoneburg)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/118 "2010-07-23T10:12:42Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > So? Willful ignorance isn’t my fucking problem. I wish you were right but that is just completely untrue. > [@Lamar\_Mundane](#): > > I love the teabaggers! Thanks to them, Harry Reid is going to win reelection, something thought impossible just a few moths ago. The same thing is happening in Florida, where it’s likely that an independant will win the senate seat who may or may not caucus with the Democrats. Colorado will likely retain the Governorship and a Senate seat in Democratic hands due to teabagger candidates winning in primaries. Hell, the Dems might even take Kentucky if Rand Paul keeps spouting off his crazy ideas. And in order to win back the votes ‘normal’ republicans will move even further to the right. Which will cause some republicans switching to the democrats. Which will mean that democrats become more right-leaning AND republicans become more right-leaning. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/119 "2010-07-23T10:30:50Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > October? That’s when we launch the revolution. Can’t be a bunch of Commies without launching the revolution. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/120 "2010-07-23T11:36:21Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > These scum dying off would not be a good thing, as they are human beings with loved ones who will miss them. Calling for the death of large numbers of people is odious. It appears that **The Facts** is a homicidal apologist. I condemn the OP: the perspective therein reflects no recognizably legitimate morality. It is at best a rather lame joke. Once again, we have the “all god’s children” rhetoric. Yes, yes, their children love them … so what? Morality consists of doing the most good for the greatest amount of people. The teabag virus would be sad for a few people, maybe … but would leave an infinietely better place for the rest. Nobody in the discussion, including you, denies this. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529.md?page=7)