# Imagine no teabaggers **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 21, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529 "2010-07-21T23:55:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/121 "2010-07-23T11:47:03Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > They’re not vile scum, not all of them. This is the debate I asked for in the OP – yes, I’m sure some of them are doctors or teachers or other socially-productive people, and THEY have a net soicial benefit, even aside from their evil politics. But are there enough of those people in the group to outwiegh the socially-useless ones. I think not, but I’d like an argument. So far, nobody has one. People are unwilling to follow through with their logic. They know conservatives are bastards that drag society down, but when someone asks, even in idle way, if we wouldn’t be better off without them … which should be OBVIOUS … everyone gets all “oh no, every sperm is sacred, every human life is valuable” shit. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/122 "2010-07-23T11:48:50Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. > > I have read some truly ignorant shit here on the Dope, but that took the cake. So sad you have no argument. Please stay out of threads started by your intellectual betters. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/123 "2010-07-23T12:51:09Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > Once again, we have the “all god’s children” rhetoric. Yes, yes, their children love them … so what? Morality consists of doing the most good for the greatest amount of people. The teabag virus would be sad for a few people, maybe … but would leave an infinietely better place for the rest. Nobody in the discussion, including you, denies this. Oh my God - a talking douche! A talking douche who has managed to get me onto the same side of an argument as **Clothahump**! Inconceivable! Wishing for the deaths of people you don’t agree with is not a sign of intellectual superiority. Thinking that it is, is even less so. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/124 "2010-07-23T14:11:30Z")
> [@asterion](#): > > That’s when we launch the revolution. Can’t be a bunch of Commies without launching the revolution. Cool! I bring my… um… well maybe I’ll just wait here. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/125 "2010-07-23T14:54:19Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > 😛 Thanks for the laugh. Did you spend the 90’s in an alcoholic haze or something? Not a foreigner exactly, no, but a traitor, communist, pervert, even serial murderer, oh my, yes, indeedy. You could look it up. The crazy accusations against Clinton never got the number of followers nor mainstream media attention that people like, say, birthers have gotten. Never. > [@The\_Facts](#): > > Conservatives ARE, by objective fact, racist, sexist, homophobic intolerant, ignorant, hateful, vile scum. Huh, I guess \*\*The Facts \*\*\*do \*have a liberal bias. :rimshot: > [@Zoe](#): > > Why would anyone support a political party based on constant lies and ignorant leadership? Fear and ignorance. They reinforce each other. > [@](#): > > But you weren’t brought up to be _stupid_. Yes, they were. > [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > These scum dying off would not be a good thing, as they are human beings with loved ones who will miss them. Hitler had loved ones who would miss him. (Godwin’d\*!!!\*) > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Just because you are too stupid to understand the reason why the Tea Partiers hate Obama doesn’t mean they don’t have one. The \*teabaggers \*don’t even understand why they hate Obama. They get asked what they actually do believe, or what they think should be done, and they just stare at you like deer in fucking headlights. > [@Stoneburg](#): > > I wish you were right but that is just completely untrue. So, care to make an argument there, or are you just gonna point and go, “NUH-UH”? Because if you want, we can do that back and forth all day, and in the end I’ll still come away looking better, since I’m the one who started with an actual point instead of just an unsupported denial. ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/126 "2010-07-23T15:38:46Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > “Look, there goes a lynch mob, bent on attacking people based on the ways in which they’re different from themselves!” > > _Pause_ > > “Let’s kill them!” As I expected, some stupid person ALWAYS gets the analogy wrong. Why don’t you just say I’m no better than they are and that killing won’t solve anything? That’ll get you the trifecta of impotent reasoning Tea Baggers are going to start killing people directly soon if they don’t get their way. Their anti-health, anti-progressive, pro-religion, and pro-gun stance have already killed millions indirectly. Wishing Tea Baggers death is self-defense. I’m not at all hateful like they are. I only hate them because they pose a threat to me For all the Tea Baggers and people who support them, consider taking your fervor down a notch. Ditch the arguments about Obama = Hitler, or government takeovers. Instead, simply confess, if you can scrape together the brain cells to make a coherent sentence, that Obama simply has different views than you, no more dangerous than somebody who doesn’t share the same sports fandom, and that government has a role, sometimes a big role, especially when the previous government decided to cede their authority and responsibility to private for-profit corporations with no accountability Then maybe you can live. Otherwise, fuck 'em all, go die ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/127 "2010-07-23T16:04:24Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > The crazy accusations against Clinton never got the number of followers nor mainstream media attention that people like, say, birthers have gotten. Never. That would be a Yes to the alcoholic haze question, then. Hope you enjoyed it. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/128 "2010-07-23T16:08:09Z")
> [@The\_Facts](#): > > So sad you have no argument. Please stay out of threads started by your intellectual betters. If one of my intellectual betters started a thread, I might. You sure as hell aren’t my intellectual better, by any stretch of the imagination. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/129 "2010-07-23T16:12:18Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > That would be a Yes to the alcoholic haze question, then. Hope you enjoyed it. Prove it. Show me hucksters who got all the attention of, say, Oily Taint or whatever the hell her name is. Show me people in the military who refused to serve under Clinton because he wasn’t a legal President. Show me people who got their names on ballots for anything other than County Dogcatcher. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/130 "2010-07-23T16:13:34Z")
Progressives wishing for death to the Teabaggers is exactly what they want. They are, based on their propensity to bring guns to political rallies, a brutish breed, waiting for an overt green light to begin engaging in violent actions. We almost saw the start of it, IMO, when windows of Democratic congresspeople were being shattered. I have noticed the propensity of those on the right to first accuse the left of something, anything, in order to obfuscate the issues at hand and inoculate themselves from accusation. In this way, when they are rightly called out for their irresponsible behavior, the overall impression of the Milk Party (my term for the masses who are not politically engaged) is of equal and equally corrupted tit-for-tat. So while I can understand the sentiment, especially after boiling over my own self here in the Pit a couple days ago, I’d have to say it would be more effective to hold off, in public places, vocalizing the idea that the world would be a better place without the teabags. It gives them cover. And beyond that, it would be far more satisfying to defeat them the American way: through better speech, through more activism, and at the polls. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/131 "2010-07-23T16:16:28Z")
That’s right! Because saying on a random message board that it might be nice if all the teabaggers just dropped dead GIVES THEM POWER! SHIT, THE SDMB IS GOING TO BE ON FUCKING HANNITY AND COLMES TONIGHT!!! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/132 "2010-07-23T16:16:42Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Prove it. Show me hucksters who got all the attention of, say, Oily Taint or whatever the hell her name is. Show me people in the military who refused to serve under Clinton because he wasn’t a legal President. Show me people who got their names on ballots for anything other than County Dogcatcher. Yes, this is a great point! The Tea Party right does get more than their fair share of attention, and it empowers them to gain name recognition and even credibility :eek: from the punditocracy. And it is far more developed in the current era of consolidated, corporate media than it was in the '90s. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/133 "2010-07-23T16:18:36Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > That’s right! Because saying on a random message board that it might be nice if all the teabaggers just dropped dead GIVES THEM POWER! SHIT, THE SDMB IS GOING TO BE ON FUCKING HANNITY AND COLMES TONIGHT!!! > > :rolleyes: _sigh_ Did you miss the part where I said **in public places**? I don’t consider the SDMB public. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/134 "2010-07-23T16:23:23Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > Prove it. Here’s your sign. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/135 "2010-07-23T16:24:30Z")
> [@Enfant Terrible](#): > > Progressives wishing for death to the Teabaggers is exactly what they want. They are, based on their propensity to bring guns to political rallies, a brutish breed, waiting for an overt green light to begin engaging in violent actions. We almost saw the start of it, IMO, when windows of Democratic congresspeople were being shattered. Jesus Christ, this thread has descended into bizarro land. You guys are completely freaking blind to your own hatred. And you have the gall to keep repeating the claim that the Tea Party is hateful and violent. I’ve read a lot of Tea Party material, and read a lot of discussion between tea partiers, and I have never, ever seen anyone express a wish for the death of anyone on the left. This is interesting from a sociological standpoint though. The levels of righteous indignation I’m hearing from some of you are off the chart. It’s a bit like the tantrum of a small child when mom refuses to buy the sugary cereal in the grocery store. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/136 "2010-07-23T16:28:47Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Cool! I bring my… um… well maybe I’ll just wait here. Do you know an old guy with a Scottish accent? We’re definitely going to need one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/137 "2010-07-23T16:30:48Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > I’ve read a lot of Tea Party material, and read a lot of discussion between tea partiers, and I have never, ever seen anyone express a wish for the death of anyone on the left. :rolleyes: You are either delusional or lying. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Understander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3da27b/32.png) [@The\_Understander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Understander)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/138 "2010-07-23T16:35:05Z")
> [@Sam\_Stone](#): > > Jesus Christ, this thread has descended into bizarro land. You guys are completely freaking blind to your own hatred. And you have the gall to keep repeating the claim that the Tea Party is hateful and violent. I’ve read a lot of Tea Party material, and read a lot of discussion between tea partiers, and I have never, ever seen anyone express a wish for the death of anyone on the left. > > This is interesting from a sociological standpoint though. The levels of righteous indignation I’m hearing from some of you are off the chart. > > It’s a bit like the tantrum of a small child when mom refuses to buy the sugary cereal in the grocery store. Which part are you disputing? The guns at the political rallies or the window-breaking? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/139 "2010-07-23T16:44:39Z")
How about the signs that say, “we came unarmed…this time?” How about the Newsmax article calling for a military coup against Obama? ETA, I do think that most of them are all talk when it comes to the threats of violence and bloviating about revoluton, but we’ve already seen them engaging in low level violence and vandalism when emboldened in mobs, and sooner or later one or a few them is probably going to pull a Tim McVeigh or take a shot at somebody. They have some real psychotics in their ranks. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2010, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529/140 "2010-07-23T16:49:36Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > If one of my intellectual betters started a thread, I might. You sure as hell aren’t my intellectual better, by any stretch of the imagination. He is. So is the keyboard I’m using. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imagine-no-teabaggers/547529.md?page=8)