# Imbecilic Olympic, "controversy." **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** olympic-sports-track\ **Created:** [July 31, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031 "2024-07-31T00:00:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/161 "2024-07-31T23:15:47Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Before Mod comes in here and gets on to me for making this about me, which I DID NOT. Brilliant! Pre-emptively disputing moderation. ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/162 "2024-07-31T23:21:39Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Before Mod comes in here and gets on to me for making this about me, which I DID NOT. Oh, don’t worry, our esteemed Pit mod Miller is quite lenient, he allows everybody to make a fool of themself. His catch phrase is “No warning issued”. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/163 "2024-07-31T23:22:43Z")
Miller is the Pit’s whipping horse! ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/164 "2024-07-31T23:22:51Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > You can’t hurt me. Then shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/165 "2024-07-31T23:27:45Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > Miller is the Pit’s whipping horse! Whipped horse is good when spread on a thinly-sliced baguette, I’ve been told. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/166 "2024-08-01T01:53:49Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > Thinking back to the 2012 Olympics here, the opening ceremony was quite aggressively British. Brunel, James Bond, the Queen; I don’t remember all of the details Production number of a tribute to the NHS. _Chariots of Fire_ performed by Mr. Bean. _Hey_ fuckin’ _Jude_. (Queen E2 would have _had_ to be there anyway to open the Games but she was a good sport with taking part in the James Bond skit.) > [@puzzlegal](#): > > I was surprised by that vignette, but thought the French were leaning into Paris being the city of love. Quite so, and I sort of caught on to what was up early in the sequence and watched along to see where they would take it. And in general, to put it bluntly, I am a bit weary of the expectation of living in a child-proofed media world. As someone else said, people shaken by a genderfluid bacchanale or by an implied threesome… but no prob with poor Marie A. losing her head? > [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I’m thinking that a country noted for citizens who made statements like this, > “Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.” ~ Denis Diderot, 1713-1784 > might have had some other notions about what’s provocative, edgy and pushing boundaries two hundred years later. And really by their standards, this was all perfectly cool beans. > [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > And she’s a DJ, with her turntable in front of her. Yeah, I noticed _that_ within seconds. Then again I was seeing what was in front of me in the screen, not what I _wanted_ to see, as a lot of the complainers were. But really, everyone needs to just ride this one out being comforted by the knowledge that in four years the Summer Games will be in Los Angeles, USA, and you can bet your bottom dollar everything about the ceremony will be 100% middle-class-family-safe and corporate-market-friendly. Y’all are going to be **wishing** for something “controversial” to distract from people yelling as to how come this being in America they say the names in more than one language. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/167 "2024-08-01T01:57:59Z")
Yes, I did read that. Well, it’s all different now. Now I see why they thought she was Jesus. The turntable should have been a dead giveaway. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/168 "2024-08-01T04:03:19Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > And in general, to put it bluntly, I am a bit weary of the expectation of living in a child-proofed media world. As someone else said, people shaken by a genderfluid bacchanale or by an implied threesome… but no prob with poor Marie A. losing her head? Cartoonish adults flirting, and then retreating to privacy, strikes me as PG at most, and honestly, probably G rated. My kids saw at least that much in real life when they were young, because i brought them to social events that included college kids and recent grads who were pairing off. I mean, maybe you didn’t ever find yourself at a picnic with your little kids where the young adults were talking about how to come out to their parents as polyamorous, but i did. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/169 "2024-08-01T05:19:39Z")
Next up, the Buddhists? > **[Controversy erupts at Olympics: Muslim leaders condemn 'offensive' display](https://www.newsweek.com/olympics-opening-ceremony-last-supper-muslim-leaders-response-1932766)** > > Muslim leaders are speaking out against a scene from the 2024 Paris Olympics Opening Ceremony which many believe referenced "The Last Supper." ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/170 "2024-08-01T05:33:45Z")
You know, I’m to the build a bridge and get the hell over it point. Just because they believe in mythology doesn’t mean we all have to tip toe around their beliefs. If their god(s) are so great why be so easily triggered by something that wasn’t even what they decided it was. One more time with feeling: _ **It wasn’t a depiction or mockery of the Last Supper** _, and if it was I think Jesus wouldn’t give a shit so why do they? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/171 "2024-08-01T05:50:14Z")
Same here! Even if it was a parody of “The Last Supper,” those are the type of people Jesus would have sought out, to break bread with. Now, the Dutch beach volleyball player who is a convicted child molester? THAT’S something to get your panties in a wad about - that he’s out free and on the world stage, more or less. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/172 "2024-08-01T06:09:26Z")
Ugh! I hadn’t heard about that. They get all in a twit about a mockery of something that wasn’t, yet don’t send out big showy statements about a convicted child molester? These people suck. I think this guy didn’t want the christians to get all the attention. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/173 "2024-08-01T06:27:58Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > Ugh! I hadn’t heard about that. We talked about it over here: > [@Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread-part-2/995657/1936): > > [The Netherlands is sending someone who raped a child to participate in the Olympics.](https://www.yahoo.com/news/sent-jail-raping-child-dutch-130101163.html) (The link goes to Yahoo.) The Netherlands’ Olympic chief has said he is “surprised” at reactions towards [Steven van de Velde](https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Steven%20van%20de%20Velde), the Dutch beach volleyball player who served time in prison for raping a child 10 years ago and who will represent the Netherlands at this year’s [Olympics](https://cnn.com/sport/paris-olympics-2024?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_yahoo). Van de Velde, who is now 29, was sentenced to four years in prison in 2014 for raping the girl who was aged 12, according to [Briti…](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-35861441) And yeah, it’s pretty fucked up. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/174 "2024-08-01T06:31:41Z")
I think when you’re expected to apologise for something that literally never happened, the temptation to be sarcastic is quite strong and that came through a bit here. Like ‘We’re sorry to learn that you are idiots’ ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/175 "2024-08-01T15:09:27Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > My thought was, why did they do it? They could have done a thousand other stupid shows, why something like that? This is a question I see a lot, and I think it seldom has a satisfying answer; why did someone who is not me, do a thing in a way that I wouldn’t? Often there is a tacit underlying assumption that there is an obvious or singular better or right thing to do, but the real world isn’t like that; people think about the things they want to do, and come to different decisions from each other on their final choices. > [@Ulfreida](#): > > but my point here is that if there was a specific reason millions of people (billions probably) were purposely offended, I wonder what that reason could be. They’re fuckwits. That’s the reason. No really. They got offended over something they simply failed to properly comprehend, and didn’t make any effort to comprehend, but assumed they did comprehend. You don’t have to like everything you see, but it’s really stupid to hate it for some completely mistaken reason. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/176 "2024-08-01T15:20:18Z")
> [@Zyada](#): > > Is there a trope name for when you show more than 3 people at a table and no one has their back to the viewer? > > I always called it sitcom seating TV Tropes calls that a [Social Semi-Circle.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SocialSemiCircle) ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/177 "2024-08-01T15:22:13Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > I think when you’re expected to apologise for something that literally never happened, the temptation to be sarcastic is quite strong and that came through a bit here. Sometimes you get the apology you deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/178 "2024-08-01T15:28:35Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > They’re fuckwits. That’s the reason. No really. They got offended over something they simply failed to properly comprehend, and didn’t make any effort to comprehend, but assumed they did comprehend. You don’t have to like everything you see, but it’s really stupid to hate it for some completely mistaken reason. But a lot of the people who were offended didn’t see it. They were told by others what it was and that it was offensive. Offense has a capacity to go viral. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/179 "2024-08-01T15:32:48Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > They’re fuckwits. That’s the reason. No really. They got offended over something they simply failed to properly comprehend, and didn’t make any effort to comprehend, but assumed they did comprehend. i also think that people who believe fantasies and base their lives around it tend to be very sensitive, knowing (deep down) that their whole belief system is based on a fraud. The fragility of the whole thing makes them hyper-vigilant. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2024, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031/180 "2024-08-01T15:35:26Z")
There’s more than a little inferiority complex as well. They’re all worried that somebody, anybody anywhere in the whole wide world looks down on them in any way. A very common reaction to even potential ridicule is to go on the offensive. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imbecilic-olympic-controversy/1005031.md?page=10)