# IMDB Challenge: worse than Vampira? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 9, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829 "2009-03-09T13:33:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/1 "2009-03-09T13:33:05Z")
Here’s the score to beat: [Filmography by rating for Vampira](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0885533/filmorate) where her top films had user ratings of: Actress (5.98) - Too Much, Too Soon (1958) (5.68) - I Woke Up Early the Day I Died (1998) (5.40) - The Beat Generation (1959) (5.32) - If Winter Comes (1947) (3.60) - Plan 9 from Outer Space (1959) (3.21) - The Magic Sword (1962) (2.57) - Sex Kittens Go to College (1960) * * * If your candidate doesn’t have (as top ranked projects) at least five movies with worse scores than Vampira’s, please don’t post his/her scores. And if your entry can’t beat one already posted, please don’t post his/her scores either. * * * To locate the scores for the actor you believe can beat Vampira (Maila Nurmi) for worse ratings, use the Name search option and then pick Filmographies categorized by type by year by ratings by votes by TV series in order to try to find somebody with a worse set of ratings. * * * As a first step, you might wish to visit [Bottom 100 movies as voted by our users](http://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom) to see some of the “stars” in the real doggies. I picked Vampira mostly because of (3.60) - Plan 9 from Outer Space (1959), which, oddly enough, has managed to rise above the Bottom 100 since last time I checked the list. So Vampira is most likely easily beaten by other screen personalities with even less talent, so the task at hand is to find _The Worst_ actor on IMDB. * * * MODS: If this is viewed as more of a game than some fun to be had in Cafe Society, then by all means move the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/2 "2009-03-09T16:12:32Z")
A violation of my own rules for the thread, but I just have to share a real threat to Vampira. Strike off his top two and [Filmography by rating for Coleman Francis](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0290118/filmorate) has to put a damper on his hopes for an Oscar, not to mention the fact that he’s been dead since 1973. Turkey shoot: Actor (6.19) - Cimarron (1960) (6.15) - Stakeout on Dope Street (1958) (5.76) - Motor Psycho (1965) (5.69) - Beyond the Valley of the Dolls (1970) (5.58) - This Island Earth (1955) (5.56) - P.J. (1968) (5.55) - The Girl in White (1952) (5.10) - She Couldn’t Say No (1954) (5.08) - Scarlet Angel (1952) (4.98) - Twilight for the Gods (1958) (4.80) - The Thrill Killers (1964) (4.74) - T-Bird Gang (1959) (4.68) - Body Fever (1969) (4.06) - Lemon Grove Kids Meet the Monsters (1965) (2.72) - Killers from Space (1954) (1.66) - The Beast of Yucca Flats (1961) (1.49) - The Skydivers (1963) (1.37) - Night Train to Mundo Fine (1966) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/3 "2009-03-09T16:33:49Z")
Ed Wood, as an actor, comes in with 9 movies and a best (and I use the term loosely) of 4.17 (4.17) - Five Loose Women (1974) (3.81) - ‘Necromania’: A Tale of Weird Love! (1971) (3.60) - Plan 9 from Outer Space (1959) (3.56) - Crossroads of Laredo (1995) (3.50) - Glen or Glenda (1953) (3.43) - The Love Feast (1969) (2.64) - Night of the Ghouls (1959) (2.54) - Jail Bait (1954) (2.01) - The Sinister Urge (1960) ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/4 "2009-03-09T16:49:20Z")
With apologies to **Robot Arm** who beats my guy by one movie’s worth, I present for your amusement [Filmography by rating for Ray Dennis Steckler](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0824306/filmorate) who managed to suck in almost every category but “self” where he did okay. His acting credits: Actor (4.35) - The Thrill Killers (1964) (3.95) - Body Fever (1969) (3.40) - Lemon Grove Kids Meet the Monsters (1965) (2.47) - Wild Guitar (1962) (1.93) - The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies!!? (1964) (1.92) - Eegah (1962) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/5 "2009-03-09T17:03:15Z")
**Tor Johnson** > [@](#): > > (5.73) - The Black Sleep (1956) > (3.61) - Plan 9 from Outer Space (1959) > (3.55) - Bride of the Monster (1955) > (2.76) - Night of the Ghouls (1959) > (2.16) - The Unearthly (1957) > (1.69) - The Beast of Yucca Flats (1961) ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/6 "2009-03-09T17:20:19Z")
**David L. Hewitt** in several categories > [@](#): > > Director > (4.05) - Monsters Crash the Pajama Party (1965) > (3.28) - Journey to the Center of Time (1967) > (2.91) - The Wizard of Mars (1965) > (2.71) - The Mighty Gorga (1969) > (2.51) - The Lucifer Complex (1978) > (2.05) - Dr. Terror’s Gallery of Horrors (1967) > Writer > (5.15) - The Time Travelers (1964) > (4.07) - Monsters Crash the Pajama Party (1965) > (3.29) - Journey to the Center of Time (1967) > (2.92) - The Wizard of Mars (1965) > (2.73) - The Mighty Gorga (1969) > (2.53) - The Lucifer Complex (1978) > (2.06) - Dr. Terror’s Gallery of Horrors (1967) > Miscellaneous Crew > (4.39) - The Outing (1987) > (4.27) - Relentless IV: Ashes to Ashes (1994) > (4.10) - Leprechaun (1993) > Next US airings: > Tue. Mar. 17 3:00 PM SCIFI > > (2.86) - Sorceress (1995) > Producer > (4.10) - Monsters Crash the Pajama Party (1965) > (3.30) - Journey to the Center of Time (1967) > (2.94) - The Wizard of Mars (1965) > (2.75) - The Mighty Gorga (1969) > (2.07) - Dr. Terror’s Gallery of Horrors (1967) > Actor > (3.99) - Monsters Crash the Pajama Party (1965) > (2.66) - The Mighty Gorga (1969) > (2.13) - Bikini Drive-In (1995) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/7 "2009-03-09T17:45:59Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > If your candidate doesn’t have (as top ranked projects) at least five movies with worse scores than Vampira’s Does that mean five all below Vampira’s lowest score, or five all below Vampira’s fifth-highest score, or what? (The former option seems like an artificially difficult bar.) ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/8 "2009-03-09T18:00:11Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Does that mean five all below Vampira’s lowest score, or five all below Vampira’s fifth-highest score, or what? (The former option seems like an artificially difficult bar.) I’m sorry for the confusing requirement. I meant whoever’s top score had to be below Vampira’s top score, with no further stipulations. As you can tell, I violated my own rule with my second post, and other posts have disregarded the “rule” as well. Just pretend that the idea is to find some really unfortunate actors whose best efforts were in shitty movies. Note that it’s the movie’s rating and not the actor’s that’s behind the numbers. It really annoyed me that Paris Hilton, Pia Zadora, and even Pauly Shore have been in some “decent” movies. IMDB needs a separate rating for actors’ performances, separate from the overall value of the movie itself. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/9 "2009-03-09T18:05:50Z")
Can I add Uwe Boll’s pitiful efforts as a director? 1. (4.13) - Tunnel Rats (2008) 2. (4.06) - Heart of America (2002) 3. (3.99) - Postal (2007) 4. (3.80) - In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale (2007) 5. (2.79) - Sanctimony (2000) (TV) 6. (2.79) - Far Cry (2008) 7. (2.60) - BloodRayne (2005) 8. (2.41) - Blackwoods (2002) 9. (2.40) - Seed (2007) 10. (2.40) - BloodRayne II: Deliverance (2007) (V) 11. (2.20) - Alone in the Dark (2005) 12. (2.18) - Stoic (2009) 13. (2.13) - Amoklauf (1994) 14. (2.00) - House of the Dead (2003) 15. (1.84) - Barschel - Mord in Genf? (1993) 16. (1.74) - Das Erste Semester (1997) 17. (1.36) - German Fried Movie (1991) (V) Median is 2.40. ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/10 "2009-03-09T18:10:07Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Can I add Uwe Boll’s pitiful efforts as a director? > > 1. (4.13) - Tunnel Rats (2008) > > \ > > 1. (1.36) - German Fried Movie (1991) (V) > > Median is 2.40. Of course! Good find, too. Boy was/is blessed. It hadn’t even occurred to me until your post that we might have equal amounts of fun with cinematographers, costumers, etc. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2009, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/11 "2009-03-09T21:05:05Z")
[Ooooooooh ooooooooooooooh Vampira!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLiyjJB-d2Y) (youtube link) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/12 "2009-03-10T01:34:19Z")
> [@Zeldar](#): > > (1.37) - Night Train to Mundo Fine (1966) A true classic, which you may recognize under the title _[Red Zone Cuba](http://agonybooth.com/recaps/Red_Zone_Cuba_1966.aspx)_. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/13 "2009-03-10T04:00:22Z")
> [@](#): > > 1. (1.74) - Das Erste Semester (1997) Is "semester "really German? Cause That title sounds like the crap me and my friends who only took basic German like to say and we call PseudoDeutch ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/14 "2009-03-10T04:18:55Z")
I certainly won’t try to pass off Tor Johnson as a great actor (and Tor himself would probably have laughed at anyone who did!), but unlike much of Ed Wood’s troupe, he actually had credits in some decent movies. He had small parts in several mainstream, popular comedies by Bob Hope and Abbott & Costello, for instance. His worst movies were as bad as Vampira’s (sometimes the SAME as Vampira’s). But unlike Vampira, Tor actually had some pretty good movies to his credit, too. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/15 "2009-03-10T05:39:48Z")
Here’s the complete filmography of Arch Hall Jr: Actor 1. (6.70) - The Sadist (1963) 2. (4.10) - The Choppers (1961) 3. (3.90) - Deadwood '76 (1965) 4. (2.54) - Wild Guitar (1962) 5. (2.26) - The Nasty Rabbit (1964) 6. (1.93) - Eegah (1962) Writer 1. (4.07) - Deadwood '76 (1965) 2. (3.00) - Magic Spectacles (1961) Thanks 1. (2.20) - Hooligan’s Valley (2005) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2009, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-challenge-worse-than-vampira/488829/16 "2009-03-10T05:46:37Z")
Roger Christian’s directorial career: 1. (5.68) - Nostradamus (1994) 2. (5.64) - The Sender (1982) 3. (5.57) - The Final Cut (1995) 4. (5.38) - American Daylight (2004) 5. (5.03) - Underworld (1996) 6. (4.81) - Masterminds (1997) 7. (3.53) - Starship (1985) 8. (2.30) - Battlefield Earth: A Saga of the Year 3000 (2000) In Christian’s defense, he had some good non-directorial credits in films such as Alien, The Life of Brian, and Star Wars before he was “promoted” to Director.