# IMDb Top 250 you think are TRULY crap **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 18, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737 "2007-02-18T21:10:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/41 "2007-02-20T11:21:31Z")
Disclaimer: Given the ridiculousness of the OP, I was hoping this would turn into an ironic thread. However, as it didn’t, I would like to state for the record that I wasn’t serious about what I said about Pulp Fiction. ---
**Author:** ![Critical1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@Critical1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Critical1)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/42 "2007-02-20T12:18:54Z")
[QUOTE=mr. jp] Disclaimer: Given the ridiculousness of the OP, I was hoping this would turn into an ironic thread. However, as it didn’t, I would like to state for the record that I wasn’t serious about what I said about Pulp Fiction. [/QUOTE] I kinda wonder if that was the intent (the ridiculousness of the OP that is) its kinda like talking to people about “Contact” and hearing them bitch because the alien was her dad and blah blah blah blah then when you ask them what the movie was about you hear aliens contact earth and they build blah blah blah blah inspite of the fact the the entire movie has nothing to do with aliens big machines government or anything other than faith. different people will always come away with different views on things. one of the above posters hates the matrix and I agree…completely but he also hates Fight Club for apperantly the same reasons…2 movies with nothing in common at all. one a dark comedy and the other an fx fest staring an actor with all the talent of a can of spam. its all opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/43 "2007-02-20T13:01:16Z")
[QUOTE=Aeschines] For example, I really don’t like **The Shawshank Redemption** , but I don’t consider it to be crap. Crap as in, How did this movie get to be Top 250 popular–it sucks! Here are mine, however. Tell us yours. **#20. Goodfellas** My good friend and I saw this on video not long after it came out. He was a movie buff too, and our reaction was to laugh at this thing, considering it incompetent and retarded. _Never_ did we suspect that this thing would have supporters over the long term. Just a stupid, stupid movie. **#27. The Silence of the Lambs** I never understood the appeal of the Hannibal character, which meant there was probably no way to like this stinker. Depressing but also really dumb. Self-important tripe. **#39. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind** Not well acted at all by Jim Carrey. Another movie that is trying to be all brainin and original, when its best material had already been done to death by pulp sci-fi back in the 1960s. I was surprised even to see this one on the list. Blech. **#63. Reservoir Dogs** Fucking retarded! Mr. Blond, Mr. Pink, Mr. Bullshit. _Pulp Fiction_ is about the only QT movie I can stand, and I don’t really like it either. His vision of how things work in the world is simply infantile. **#74. The Departed** Scorsese has pretty much the same problem here: I didn’t by his cussed-filled version of coppery for a second. Seemed overwrought and fake. JN sucked in this film. Another I was surprised to see on the list. **#84. Forrest Gump** How did this piece of shit get on the list! God, I’ve always hated this movie. **#96. Kill Bill** Another QT retardation. I actually am a fan of bad martial arts movies, and QT utterly fails to capture anything good about them. I did enjoy that the battle with the ball and chain; that’s about the best I can say about this degraded piece of garbage. I have no earthly idea about what the critics saw in this. Also, anything related to Japan in this movie is utterly laughable if you understand Japanese, which I do. (I didn’t see part 2, so I can’t trash it here.) **#213. Scarface** I just saw this two days ago and laughed my ass off! Pacino is fucking ridiculous with that accent and the downturned mouth and all that crap–haw haw! Had fuckin’ DePalma made this as a comedy, I’d probably loved it. But this has some of the worst music EVER in a movie. Horrible 80s clothes, crap characters, and just–oh man, what a dumb dumb flick! There are plenty of other films in the Top 250 that I’m not a big fan of. There are also many that I haven’t seen. On the other hand, many of my favorites are there. But the above eight films really, truly don’t belong there. I think. [/QUOTE] Right on. **The Godfather**? My god. “I made him an offer he couldn’t refuse”. “Leave the gun, take the cannoli.” Who says that shit? Who fucking talks like that? “I don’t want you coming out of the bathroom with just your dick in your hand”. And, they’re in America. They’re in Italy. He’s got one wife. He’s got another. What the fuck is going on? **Casablanca**. Hello. Black & white. What fucking year is this? ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/44 "2007-02-20T13:02:48Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] **neutron star** - you must not have realized that, like Star Wars, Indiana Jones is an homage to the serials of the director’s youth. It _supposed to_ be cliched and over the top. [/QUOTE] I understand, but an homage to crap is still crap. I didn’t like Star Wars, either. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/45 "2007-02-20T15:20:58Z")
[QUOTE=dawvee] 136. Gladiator - In retrospect, I especially hate this one for starting the whole ‘epic movie’ craze. [/QUOTE] I think Braveheart did that. > [@neutron star](#): > > I understand, but an homage to crap is still crap. I didn’t like Star Wars, either. Lucas and Spielberg saw their influences through the eyes of childhood wonder. That’s their excuse. Yours is . . . “an homage to crap is still crap.” Nice. ---
**Author:** ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/46 "2007-02-20T16:16:05Z")
The crappiest crap of all-time: 1. Rear Window 2. Dr. Strangelove 3. Forrest Gump 4. Monsters, Inc. Too crappy for the Top 250: 5. City of God 6. Amelie 7. Vertigo 8. Se7en 9. American History X 10. L.A. Confidential 11. Requiem for a Dream 12. Crash 13. Cool Hand Luke 14. Run Lola Run 15. The Conversation 16. Scarface ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/47 "2007-02-20T21:12:02Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] Lucas and Spielberg saw their influences through the eyes of childhood wonder. That’s their excuse. Yours is . . . “an homage to crap is still crap.” Nice. [/QUOTE] Well, some of us outgrow childhood wonder. Sorry. Hell, I didn’t like those movies when I _was_ a child! Maybe I’m just weird. Point is, I really dislike over-the-top, unrealistic, predictable action movies with cookie-cutter characters, no matter what the filmmakers’ reasons for making them are. Why should saying “Oh, the director liked children’s action serials when he was a kid” suddenly make me like a movie I hated? ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/48 "2007-02-20T21:30:45Z")
[QUOTE=neutron star] Why should saying “Oh, the director liked children’s action serials when he was a kid” suddenly make me like a movie I hated? [/QUOTE] It might help you understand two of the most popular movie series of all time. It’s not like we’re talking _Battle Beyond the Stars_ and _The Rundown_. There’s a reason these films are so popular. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2007, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/49 "2007-02-20T23:47:51Z")
I agree with a number of posters in the thread that there are no movies on that list that I’ve seen that I think are truly crap, although there are some that wouldn’t go on my top 250 list. I realize, though, that part of that is that I really don’t like either Tarantino or Kubrick, and both of them are heavly represented on there. If you’re curious, I think that Tarantino tends to be much too nihilistically violent for me (and while I admit Scorsese also tends to be nihilistically violent, for whatever reason I still like his stuff), and, while Kubrick’s work tended to be visually stunning, I think that it tended to suffer in terms of plot and coherance. I mean, the first half hour and the last half hour of 2001 contains no dialog. I tend to agree with Rock Hudson, who said after he saw the movie, “Will someone tell me what the hell this is about?” ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/50 "2007-02-21T00:20:19Z")
I can’t personally understand how you couldn’t like “Ed Wood”. “Ed Wood” is a brilliant movie. Only people with hearts made of clockwork and broken glass could dislike “Ed Wood”. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Captain\_Lance\_Murdoch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Lance_Murdoch)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/51 "2007-02-21T05:20:33Z")
[QUOTE=Aeschines] **#20. Goodfellas** My good friend and I saw this on video not long after it came out. He was a movie buff too, and our reaction was to laugh at this thing, considering it incompetent and retarded. _Never_ did we suspect that this thing would have supporters over the long term. Just a stupid, stupid movie. [/quote] So it’s incompetent, retarded, stupid and stupid. A pretty compelling argument. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/52 "2007-02-21T05:36:54Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Lance Murdoch] So it’s incompetent, retarded, stupid and stupid. A pretty compelling argument. [/QUOTE] Now if he’d said that about its real life subject, it’d be a perfectly reasonable and accurate argument. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/53 "2007-02-21T12:57:56Z")
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**Author:** ![Trunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/87869e/32.png) [@Trunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trunk)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/54 "2007-02-21T14:13:39Z")
[QUOTE=Captain Lance Murdoch] So it’s incompetent, retarded, stupid and stupid. A pretty compelling argument. [/QUOTE] After reading the first two on the OP’s list, you could have written the rest yourself. The entire list could have been summed up by saying, “I’m too cool for the cool canon.” It had nothing to do with an intelligent criticism of the films themselves, and everything to do with some kind of meta-posing. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/55 "2007-02-21T15:16:18Z")
[QUOTE=Trunk] After reading the first two on the OP’s list, you could have written the rest yourself. The entire list could have been summed up by saying, “I’m too cool for the cool canon.” It had nothing to do with an intelligent criticism of the films themselves, and everything to do with some kind of meta-posing. [/QUOTE] Hardly. I think it’s funny when people make conclusions about a person’s taste level by hearing just a few likes and dislikes. So, if you dislike these particular eight movies on the IMDb Top 250, then you’re a philistine? It is to laugh, people. I like a lot of arty movies. I hate a lot of arty movies. I like a lot of pop movies. I hate a lot of pop movies. Doesn’t everyone? ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2007, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737/56 "2007-02-21T15:31:48Z")
[QUOTE=Lemur866] I can’t personally understand how you couldn’t like “Ed Wood”. “Ed Wood” is a brilliant movie. Only people with hearts made of clockwork and broken glass could dislike “Ed Wood”. [/QUOTE] Well, I guess that’s me then, if you say so. The OP asks what movies we think are crap. I think it’s crap. You think it’s brilliant. Vive la Difference! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imdb-top-250-you-think-are-truly-crap/392737.md?page=2)