# Immigration **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 10, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956 "2013-05-10T02:46:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![trusttt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@trusttt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/trusttt)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/1 "2013-05-10T02:46:40Z")
Human Beings have long immigrated to different parts of earth for a variety of “noble” reasons but today’s modern utopia or joke of human immigration is nothing Noble . Drugs, Money are the most common reasons. In order to prevent a race from destroying iteself into oblivion . i believe these steps have to be taken to help economies, societies get back into Strength. 1. Disallow workvisas for foreign workers , if foreign workers cannot work on "Offshore workcenters and are needed ‘Onsite’ " then do not do the business at all. Reason is these foreign workers do not know anything about the land and society and they bring their stupid families and kids thus polluting. 2. Student visas should only be given to “highly gifted students” who can willingly accept the culture they are coming into , moreover only Ivy League Universities should be allowed to have foreign students rather than “idiotic” state schools. 3. Parents should be banned from having "anchor " babies here. If that is not stopped then we will have no racial identity . 4. If we do not fight the stupid from immigrating here , then we will become the society of the Natives who failed against the Europeans. I welcome people to add more points which will help us here. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/2 "2013-05-10T02:53:47Z")
Oh, look! The second wave has arrived! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/3 "2013-05-10T03:10:42Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > Human Beings have long immigrated to different parts of earth for a variety of “noble” reasons but today’s modern utopia or joke of human immigration is nothing Noble . Drugs, Money are the most common reasons. Well, the first colonies in Virginia were established so people could get rich by growing tobacco. So the drugs and money were right there from the start. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/4 "2013-05-10T03:22:48Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > In order to prevent a race from destroying iteself into oblivion . i believe these steps have to be taken to help economies, societies get back into Strength. What “race” do you speak of here? The white race in general? Nordic whites? Anglo-Saxons? > [@](#): > > 1. Disallow workvisas for foreign workers , if foreign workers cannot work on "Offshore workcenters and are needed ‘Onsite’ " then do not do the business at all. Reason is these foreign workers do not know anything about the land and society and they bring their stupid families and kids thus polluting. “Polluting”? “stupid families and kids”. Rather interesting opinions you’ve got there… > [@](#): > > 1. Student visas should only be given to “highly gifted students” who can willingly accept the culture they are coming into , moreover only Ivy League Universities should be allowed to have foreign students rather than “idiotic” state schools. You do realize several public universities such as the University of California are more or less on par with the Ivies along with private universities not in the Ivies (ie U of Chicago or Duke) > [@](#): > > 1. Parents should be banned from having "anchor " babies here. If that is not stopped then we will have no racial identity . Why should we have a racial identity and how are anchor babies stopping you from claiming one? > [@](#): > > 1. If we do not fight the stupid from immigrating here , then we will become the society of the Natives who failed against the Europeans. Assuming some group doesn’t bring a plague that kills ninety percent of our population I doub that. > [@](#): > > I welcome people to add more points which will help us here. I’m sympathetic to both sides of the immigration debate but this is borderline “race realist”/White Nationalist stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/5 "2013-05-10T04:07:48Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > 1. If we do not fight the stupid from immigrating here , then we will become the society of the Natives who failed against the Europeans. You’ve made it painfully clear that the stupid are already among us. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/6 "2013-05-10T04:25:24Z")
Oh Nos! Racial identity theft! Anything but that! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/7 "2013-05-10T04:30:04Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > . . . 3) Parents should be banned from having "anchor " babies here. If that is not stopped then we will have no racial identity . . . . This would require a constitutional amendment, and I rather think it isn’t forthcoming. Meanwhile, the U.S.A. already has no “racial identity.” I have black and Latino next-door neighbors, and Asian neighbors just down the street. All every bit as American as I am, or you are. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/8 "2013-05-10T05:00:43Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > 1. Parents should be banned from having "anchor " babies here. If that is not stopped then we will have no racial identity . One of the silliest reasons for caring about so-called “anchor babies” I’ve ever heard of. Why should I or anyone care about “racial identity”? > [@trusttt](#): > > I welcome people to add more points which will help us here. How about “racism is a really foolish and outdated idea”. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/9 "2013-05-10T05:29:02Z")
Too late. All your base are belong to them. ---
**Author:** ![Ken001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@Ken001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ken001)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/10 "2013-05-10T12:20:36Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > Human Beings have long immigrated to different parts of earth for a variety of “noble” reasons … **Emigrated.** Please - if you are going to rant at least use the correct term. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/11 "2013-05-10T12:43:39Z")
> [@Ken001](#): > > **Emigrated.** > > Please - if you are going to rant at least use the correct term. I’m quite sure the OP is an “English Only” advocate. How interesting that those folks generally have a wretched command of their beloved language. Shall we begin making bets on how long this one lasts? Really, “racial identity”? I’m in Texas, where there remain descendants of the original inhabitants; they weren’t white. Our earliest [Spanish immigrants](http://www.cida-sa.org/families.html) included all colors–but I’m sure the OP would object to their ethnicity. “White” (Anglo, Central European, Irish & Alsatian) settlers came a bit later–but many of the Anglos brought black people with them; in fact, when the newly declared Mexican Republic ended slavery, the desire for a “free Texas” gained energy. Texas has continued to grow in diversity. The international doctors, engineers & professors are damn intelligent. Even the less educated have proven they have initiative & energy–even if they don’t belong to Mensa. Hey, OP: What’s your IQ? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/12 "2013-05-10T13:09:00Z")
I don’t know why we’re assuming the OP is talking about protecting white America. He (she?) could be lamenting the high rate of immigration to and its effects on the Ivory Coast. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/13 "2013-05-10T13:14:56Z")
I thought last month was White Supremacy month. ---
**Author:** ![martu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@martu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/martu)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/14 "2013-05-10T13:22:32Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > Human Beings have long immigrated to different parts of earth for a variety of “noble” reasons but today’s modern utopia or joke of human immigration is nothing Noble . Drugs, Money are the most common reasons. > > In order to prevent a race from destroying iteself into oblivion . i believe these steps have to be taken to help economies, societies get back into Strength. > > 1. Disallow workvisas for foreign workers , if foreign workers cannot work on "Offshore workcenters and are needed ‘Onsite’ " then do not do the business at all. Reason is these foreign workers do not know anything about the land and society and they bring their stupid families and kids thus polluting. > > 2. Student visas should only be given to “highly gifted students” who can willingly accept the culture they are coming into , moreover only Ivy League Universities should be allowed to have foreign students rather than “idiotic” state schools. > > 3. Parents should be banned from having "anchor " babies here. If that is not stopped then we will have no racial identity . > > 4. If we do not fight the stupid from immigrating here , then we will become the society of the Natives who failed against the Europeans. > > I welcome people to add more points which will help us here. 1. No ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/15 "2013-05-10T13:24:39Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > In order to prevent a race from destroying iteself into oblivion . Can you explain, clearly and precisely, exactly what is bad about races mixing? What objectively negative consequences do you foresee? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/16 "2013-05-10T13:37:56Z")
> [@Smeghead](#): > > Can you explain, clearly and precisely, exactly what is bad about races mixing? What objectively negative consequences do you foresee? Immigration is genociding the white race, duh!! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/17 "2013-05-10T13:53:24Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Immigration is genociding the white race, duh!! I think they’re field-trialing testbed #2, after testbed #1 failed here recently. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/18 "2013-05-10T14:18:30Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > Drugs, Money are the most common reasons. Cite? > [@](#): > > In order to prevent a race from destroying iteself into oblivion . Cites please for the existence of races, the destruction of races by immigration and the risk that that’s imminent, and any reason we should care about a race being destroyed? > [@](#): > > 1. If we do not fight the stupid from immigrating here , then we will become the society of the Natives who failed against the Europeans. I don’t think we’re at much risk for being wiped out by diseases and superior numbers and weaponry brought by immigrants. Your basis for believing this is… ? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/19 "2013-05-10T14:29:49Z")
[Obvious spammer is obvious.](http://www.totse2.com/showthread.php?24475-Immigration) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956/20 "2013-05-10T14:31:57Z")
> [@trusttt](#): > > Human Beings have long immigrated to different parts of earth for a variety of “noble” reasons but today’s modern utopia or joke of human immigration is nothing Noble . Drugs, Money are the most common reasons. How is immigrating for money not a noble reason? **Most** Americans’ ancestors did that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immigration/657956.md?page=2)