# Immolating man at Trump trial: what do his pamphlets say? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [April 19, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516 "2024-04-19T18:38:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/21 "2024-04-19T19:23:50Z")
Wonder why it made a big noise. The CNN reporter nearly lost her crap. She screamed “active shooter” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/22 "2024-04-19T19:57:27Z")
Well, to be fair, the US does get a lot more active shooters than self-immolaters… ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/23 "2024-04-19T20:00:15Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > On CNN, Laura Coates was doing the live feed on the Trump trial, and gave a master class in staying … steady … while a guy lights himself on fire a few yards away from you. > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > The CNN reporter nearly lost her crap. She screamed “active shooter” I saw her on video. I thought she was pretty impressive, giving rapid reporting of a fast evolving situation. It must have been hectic and confusing, and people around her are sometimes smacked slackjaw dumb by unfolding events, but she pretty quickly corrected course from the “shooter” bit and got on top of it all. No way I could have done that! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/24 "2024-04-19T20:16:00Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > It has nothing to do with Trump or Hamas. It’s some weird banking conspiracy involving cryptocurrency and Hollywood and surprisingly nothing about Jews. And from what I made myself read, no antivax depopulation conspiracy stuff and zero about the WEF or Bill Gates. Amazing. He does connect a lot of dots - the Clintons, Kitty Dukakis, Sam Bankman-Fried, Jeffrey Epstein, the Simpsons… Is cryptocurrency becoming the new Federal Reserve for conspiracy-shouters? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/25 "2024-04-19T20:26:12Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > Wow. I pity the poor fool. Indeed. Should he survive, his injuries will be brutal, and the recovery and rehab even more brutal. I hope he thinks it was worth it (even tho we all know it was not - this act will not change a damn thing). ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/26 "2024-04-19T20:29:54Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > the US does get a lot more active shooters Right — first possibility to think of these days in a sudden burst of violence in a US crowd is “shooter” (yeah, what does this say about us) I mean really, these are pros, I would have just dropped a “Holy FUCK, dude’s on FIRE!” Saw picture of one of the pamphlets on the ground — headlined “The True History of the World (Haunted Carnival Edition)”. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/27 "2024-04-19T21:29:15Z")
I’m glad I’m not on the hazmat team cleaning up there. The combination of a fire extinguisher, propellant and burnt flesh would be so bad. I admire people who can perform tasks like that. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/28 "2024-04-19T21:45:54Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > I hope he thinks it was worth it Having a crippled mind doesn’t make the crippled body less bad. It’s just another horrible condition at the same time. “Symptoms of schizophrenia are so diverse, that I would almost say that the only thing my patients all have in common is how much they hate the condition. Except I have one patient who enjoys it” ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/29 "2024-04-19T22:25:19Z")
All those people around the man. Their first thought was to pull out their phones and take pictures. I think I only saw one person in civilian clothes even try to come to the man’s aid with a jacket to smother the fire. Those spectators are as screwed up as the man who lit himself on fire. Our society is fucked. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/30 "2024-04-19T22:52:33Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > It’s some weird banking conspiracy involving cryptocurrency and Hollywood and surprisingly nothing about Jews. > [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I definitely don’t claim to be the voice for Jews The World Over, but … I’m actually just a bit hurt. Doesn’t anything involving a banking conspiracy and Hollywood pretty much make it a Jewish plot? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/31 "2024-04-19T23:00:45Z")
So maybe it is Jewish-ish. ---
**Author:** ![Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mean_mr.mustard/32/3865_2.png) [@Mean\_Mr.Mustard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mean_Mr.Mustard)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/32 "2024-04-19T23:09:33Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > All those people around the man. Their first thought was to pull out their phones and take pictures. I think I only saw one person in civilian clothes even try to come to the man’s aid with a jacket to smother the fire. Those spectators are as screwed up as the man who lit himself on fire. Our society is fucked. I dunno. Putting myself at risk saving some fool who set himself afire is probably not something I would be inclined to do. And I’m certainly not going to judge someone else for their inaction in such a circumstance. mmm ETA: (although I get the point about the cell phone people) ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/33 "2024-04-19T23:27:36Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > Doesn’t anything involving a banking conspiracy and Hollywood pretty much make it a Jewish plot? I was going to say, bankers _and_ Hollywood but no Jews? Do you even conspiracy, bro? > [@JRDelirious](#): > > Saw picture of one of the pamphlets on the ground — headlined “The True History of the World (Haunted Carnival Edition)”. I really hope he’s not a Juggalo. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/34 "2024-04-19T23:37:10Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > All those people around the man. Their first thought was to pull out their phones and take pictures. I think I only saw one person in civilian clothes even try to come to the man’s aid with a jacket to smother the fire. Those spectators are as screwed up as the man who lit himself on fire. Would you know how to put out a blazing human being? Do you have the required tools and equipment - even improvised ones? How do you know they were taking pictures - could they have been calling 911? Not to mention seeing a person burning like that is pretty damn shocking - maybe it was, in fact, shock? Witnesses report the heat as intense, perhaps they feared being burned if they approached? (Some of the people who did put out the fire _were_ burned and one suffered smoke inhalation). I’m not saying they were all saints but I would not leap to the conclusion they were all evil or “screwed up”. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/35 "2024-04-19T23:41:44Z")
They were “filming”. All but one made no effort whatsoever to come to the man’s aid. None were close enough to be driven off by the heat. I would be ashamed if I had stood gawking at such a scene and made not even a token effort to come to the man’s assistance. If you can stomach it, here is a page where you can click the video I watched: > **[Live Video Stream Captures Disturbing Video As Man Lights Himself On Fire...](https://www.mediaite.com/news/live-video-stream-captures-disturbing-video-as-man-lights-himself-on-fire-outside-trump-trial/)** > > A live stream caught the harrowing moments a man let himself on fire outside the trial of former President Donald Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/36 "2024-04-19T23:49:14Z")
A whole fire extinguisher was emptied by officials to put the flames out. Look at that video and tell me what you, as a civilian, would have done? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/37 "2024-04-19T23:55:50Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > A whole fire extinguisher was emptied by officials to put the flames out. And he kept on burning until someone managed to get a second extinguisher there a couple of minutes later. I’m shocked that he wasn’t DOA after seeing that. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/38 "2024-04-19T23:59:05Z")
At least the one man used his jacket…which probably just added fuel to the fire. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/39 "2024-04-20T00:09:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Look at that video and tell me what you, as a civilian, would have done? I would have made the attempt. I might have been driven away by the heat, but I would have at least tried to do _something_. Most of those people are acting like the Eloi in _The Time Machine_. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/40 "2024-04-20T00:11:32Z")
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