# Immolating man at Trump trial: what do his pamphlets say?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [April 19, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516 "2024-04-19T18:38:21Z")\
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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> We are all doomed, therefore I am doomed is straightforward logic. I am doomed, therefore we are all doomed is not rational, or comic at all, as the outcome revealed.

Indeed. Your “normal” CT’ist wants to continue shouting out the news, so that more may be awakened and at least be prepared to face the calamity. But what if you drift into sincere belief in “there’s no escape, the only answer is _be eaten first_” territory…

One does get a bit chilled at things like these, many of us can probably tell of one or more crackpot we’ve encountered who we however would never wish to be hurt for/by it.

And yeah…

> Three days in the psych ward, and all I got were my new favorite socks.

Quite a take on how mental health is addressed…

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RE 3 Days In The Psych Ward

I’m going out on a limb and guessing he’s referring to the 72 hour evaluation period you must be held for after involuntary commitment. During that time, they decide if you are a threat to yourself or others. The system failed here as he didn’t get a therapist, a psychiatrist, medication or anything but new socks when they released him.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2024, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/83 "2024-04-22T19:54:27Z")

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Doesn’t seem like he would have appreciated RFK Jr.'s proposal:

[https://thehill.com/business/4611426-rfk-jr-im-gonna-put-the-entire-u-s-budget-on-blockchain/](https://thehill.com/business/4611426-rfk-jr-im-gonna-put-the-entire-u-s-budget-on-blockchain/)

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/84 "2024-04-23T01:21:47Z")

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After that guy set himself on fire Trump wants more protests.

> **[Trump Calls for Less Courthouse Security, More MAGA Protests](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-nypd-relax-security-hush-money-trial-1235008449/)**
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> Donald Trump called for security around his New York hush-money trial to be relaxed in order to allow more protests by his supporters.

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It would be horrifyingly interesting (or interestingly horrifying) to see hundreds of MAGA cultists lighting themselves on fire.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/86 "2024-04-23T01:30:53Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> RE 3 Days In The Psych Ward
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> I’m going out on a limb and guessing he’s referring to the 72 hour evaluation period you must be held for after involuntary commitment. During that time, they decide if you are a threat to yourself or others. The system failed here as he didn’t get a therapist, a psychiatrist, medication or anything but new socks when they released him.

Often it’s not a failure of the system but a product of civil liberties. If you can’t prove they are a danger to themselves or others it’s damn near impossible to make sure they get the help they require. All they have to say is no. I’ve unfortunately seen it way too many times. Mental healthcare is certainly inadequate in this country but it’s also nearly impossible to help someone who isn’t healthy enough to understand they need help.

Someone above joked about him being Florida man but he did have ties to the area. He had a masters degree from Rutgers. He worked on a congressional campaign in New York. Reading his manifesto makes me think schizophrenia but his illness was apparently pretty recent. 37 is old for the initial onset. Of course it could be something else but I’m sure we will never know for sure.

> **[Rutgers U. grad who set himself on fire outside Trump trial dies](https://nj1015.com/rutgers-grad-who-set-himself-on-fire-outside-trumps-criminal-trial-dies-max-azzarello/)**
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> A man who received his master's degree from Rutgers University has died after he shockingly set himself ablaze in public view outside a Manhattan courthouse.

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**Post date:** [April 23, 2024, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/87 "2024-04-23T01:36:12Z")

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I think Trump over estimates how many people would show up.

> **[https://i.redd.it/b5bi6uq224wc1.jpeg](https://i.redd.it/b5bi6uq224wc1.jpeg)**

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/88 "2024-04-26T15:37:02Z")

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Especially since the last time they showed up, Trump said they got infiltrated by Antifa and tricked.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/89 "2024-04-26T16:32:15Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Reading his manifesto makes me think schizophrenia but his illness was apparently pretty recent. 37 is old for the initial onset. Of course it could be something else but I’m sure we will never know for sure.

You’re right that we won’t ever know for sure, but hard drugs can cause severe paranoia. He might have spiraled into a drug addiction.

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**Post date:** [April 26, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/90 "2024-04-26T21:48:27Z")

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It’s possible. Could be a combination of things. Maybe he was medicated then went off them recently. An article I read said there was a change in him after his mother died over a year ago.

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**Post date:** [April 27, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/immolating-man-at-trump-trial-what-do-his-pamphlets-say/1000516/91 "2024-04-27T03:43:22Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> After that guy set himself on fire Trump wants more protests.

Let’s not forget what happened when he tried to attract protesters last year.

> **['He Betrayed Us': Why Trump's Call To Protest Is Flopping](https://web.archive.org/web/20230322175746/https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/he-betrayed-us-why-trump-s-call-to-protest-is-flopping/ar-AA18Uu3G)**
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> The vast majority of pro-Trump online groups seemed to shrug off the former President's rallying cry

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