To prove previous infection if you require an antibody lab test and a doctor’s certification it seems to me virtually impossible to fake a covid infection verification. A LabCorp test would have to undergo multiple authentication steps. It seems actually harder to fake a covid infection confirmation than vaccination confirmation.
For what it is worth, the Danish corona passport is valid five months after the second vaccination OR five months after a positive PCR test. If you are tested positive you get the passport eleven days after. You can get it by having a negative test, less than 48 hours old, too.
You need the passport for trains and planes, travel over the border, restaurants, cinemas, theatre and many other things. The booster shot prolong the passport indefinitely (at the moment).
There are no moderate antivaxxers. It is an extremist position to refuse a treatment that protects yourself and others against a potentially life-threatening illness in the midst of a global public health emergency, even if they do so with bland aesthetics or nonconfrontational rhetoric.
There are plenty of extremists who push horrible agendas with a smiling, nonconfrontational demeanor, but it doesn’t change what they’re doing.
What are you basing this on? Are these the rules you just came up with? As far as I know, there are no rules about proving an infection, since such proof is pretty useless as things stand.
In any case, for the sake of argument, let’s posit that it would be absolutely impossible to fake a previous infection. So what? I still think we should require that people be vaccinated. There’s the question of boosters, efficacy of infection for the various old and exciting new strains, and so on. And, for public health reasons, people should be vaccinated even if they’ve had COVID.
And, as I’ve said multiple times and will not say again, allowing previous infection as a replacement for vaccination will encourage COVID parties.
Getting vaccinated is simple, safe, and effective. Just do it already.
Alright. I know a lot of people who got vaccinated, had an unpleasant reaction, and don’t want to get a booster shot because they don’t want to go through that again, and maybe they have a bunch of friends who had mild cases of covid that were less unpleasant than their own vaccine reactions.
And quite a lot of them caught omicron. Not because they were trying to, or went to covid parties, but because they went grocery shopping or sent their kids to school.
I call them moderate anti vaxxers. And i don’t think those who have recovered from Omicron need to run out and get another booster.
- Inject vaccine into sink.
- Post lot number.
- Bye, Opal.
I get what you’re doing here, but…please don’t.
I’ve seen others use it, but if it’s troublesome, I won’t. For myself, “Hi, Opal” is more painful.
ETA: I will use 3. Profit! instead.
Thanks. “Profit!” works a lot better in this context anyway.
Why? I’m losing patience with these anti-natural immunity science deniers. If you want to take 3, 4 or 5 vaccine shots then you are free to do that. I have better things to do with my time. The science shows that natural immunity is equal or superior to vaccination.
I’m not sure what part of my post this “Why?” is directed toward. I thought I was pretty clear.
Please cite where I’m denying the effectiveness of natural immunity. Thanks!
But what do you do when that immunity wanes ?
Hopefully, he gets a booster shot.
I get what people here are saying about natural infection, and the line between the vaxxed and the unvaxxed is probably already beginning to blur due to Omicron sweeping thru the population. I would hazard eventually COVID will blend into our usual group of diseases to manage at some point.
But we are not there yet. When COVID-19 is not filling-up hospitals and ICUs with the unvaccinated, we can discuss if natural infection ≠ / = to vaccination in terms of public safety and health. Until then, vaccination provides consistent protection for the population in keeping people out of the hospital, while natural infection is providing uneven results.
Except for the many times you don’t get natural immunity, but sickness or death instead, of course.
I got the flu many years ago and now don’t need to get the annual vaccination.
Just kidding. I don’t know that I’ve had the flu since I was young, but I do get my annual vaccination. I assume Covid will be in that list. Along with tetanus whenever I need it (I work outside a lot and get scratched too often from rusty wire…luckily haven’t stepped on a nail in many years and hope to never again!)
Actually a peer reviewed study of 265,779 with natural immunity found ZERO deaths and only 4 severe cases out of 1,339 reinfections.
Please provide a cite for this study. Previous discussions I’ve had with you on the subject of COVID made it clear that you’re not that versed in statistics.
However, even if you were right, it wouldn’t change the role of vaccinations.
“That which doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.”
- Dr. Nietzsche
I’m a scientist, not a science-denier. You posted something on Delta. Did you know that infection with Delta is not protective against omicron? The best protection is being boosted. Would you like me to explain why natural immunity may end up being weaker against certain variants or why a very mild case provides little immunity at all which wanes much faster? How about an explanation as to why natural immunity is always boosted by even just one vaccination?
Outside of the science, the vast majority of posters in this thread are describing the difficulties of trusting anti-vaxxers and the bureaucratic challenges for tracking natural immunity. Which variant will provide protection? How sick were you? What test was used? Who reported it to the state?