# Impeach Earl Warren **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 29, 2012, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658 "2012-06-29T03:41:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/61 "2012-06-29T18:08:35Z")
He appears to have the instincts of a horned toad, but not quite as handsome. ---
**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/62 "2012-06-29T18:20:42Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Gee, thanks. You’re swell. I suppose in your illustrious perfection you have never made a mistake or misspoke. I am swell indeed. I have certainly made mistakes, but I try not to run my mouth off about things I know jack shit about. > [@](#): > > I read something about the Congress getting additional health care benefits above what “regular” federal workers get, which is what I was referring to So you didn’t even read the thing you actually said – that Congressmen and the President are “exempt” from the ACA (which, again, I’m interpreting to mean “exempt from the health insurance mandate”). You read something totally unrelated and then decided that they were “exempt” from the ACA. > [@](#): > > but what I read made those “extras” seem a hell of a lot more luxurious than they really are. So I made a mistake. And I used to work for the government in a military capacity. So I will own up to that one. What the hell these “extras” have to do with your bizarre statement that the President and Congress are “exempt” from the ACA is really unclear. > [@](#): > > So, my assertion about anything the government does costs money is incorrect then? How so? Doesn’t it cost money for them to do just about anything? “I’m FoieGrasIsEvil and I have made up my own fantasy numbers and I am going to use them in place of the real numbers! Come with me, and you’ll be in a world of pure imagination!” I’ll type slowly so you can read this: the federal government already subsidizes health care to an enormous degree. Eliminating inefficiencies and requiring people who can pay for their own health insurance to do so saves money overall. By reducing inefficiency and making people pay their own way if they can afford to, the government saves money, even though the ACA is only scratching the surface of the deep and bizarre inefficiencies in the health care market. > [@](#): > > Sorry, I’m pretty suspicious of a government (regardless of which corporate money whores are in office) that’s 13 trillion in debt with no end in sight. Yeah, and I don’t give a shit about the opinions of people like you who make up your own facts, and evidently don’t care about the fact that one group of “corporate money whores” :rolleyes: are the ones responsible for almost all of that debt. If you actually gave a shit about this, and bothered to learn anything about it, you’d see that there’s one group of “corporate money whores” :rolleyes: who are disproportionately responsible. But you don’t actually give a shit about this, which is why you’re yammering about something that you, as we have discussed previously, know _jack shit_ about. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/63 "2012-06-29T18:46:48Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Clearly you’ve never had to explain this to one of those asshole Dilbert-esque Target floor managers and now you have to shop and fucking K-Mart for the next two years. No, I’m not allowed back at K-Mart. Not ever. They are…unforgiving. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/64 "2012-06-29T19:22:21Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > And even more hated than that was the decision in Miranda v. Arizona Really now, **Humpy**? Who hates it? Besides maybe the asshole type of cop, that is. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/65 "2012-06-29T19:48:36Z")
> [@friedo](#): > > Well, the south is where most of those signs were put up. I’m old enough to remember this, and from what I recall it was hot in California. Southern California, to be sure (Orange County) for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/66 "2012-06-29T19:50:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Really now, **Humpy**? Who hates it? Besides maybe the asshole type of cop, that is. Nah, anyone who thought not giving suspected criminals the third degree and beating the crap out of them to help their memory was coddling criminals thought this was a bad decision. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/67 "2012-06-29T19:54:35Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Gee, thanks. You’re swell. I suppose in your illustrious perfection you have never made a mistake or misspoke. > > I read something about the Congress getting additional health care benefits above what “regular” federal workers get, which is what I was referring to, but what I read made those “extras” seem a hell of a lot more luxurious than they really are. So I made a mistake. And I used to work for the government in a military capacity. So I will own up to that one. I suspect Congress does indeed get better medical benefits than the average federal worker. But this isn’t even in the same galaxy as what the law covers. What do you think the law covers? > [@](#): > > So, my assertion about anything the government does costs money is incorrect then? How so? Doesn’t it cost money for them to do just about anything? You are confusing cost and value. The interstate highway system cost a lot of money also, but it returned far more than that to the economy. The military costs a lot of money also, but I think it is mostly worth it. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/68 "2012-06-29T19:57:12Z")
> [@mister\_nyx](#): > > I am swell indeed. I have certainly made mistakes, but I try not to run my mouth off about things I know jack shit about. > So you didn’t even read the thing you actually said – that Congressmen and the President are “exempt” from the ACA (which, again, I’m interpreting to mean “exempt from the health insurance mandate”). You read something totally unrelated and then decided that they were “exempt” from the ACA. > What the hell these “extras” have to do with your bizarre statement that the President and Congress are “exempt” from the ACA is really unclear. > “I’m FoieGrasIsEvil and I have made up my own fantasy numbers and I am going to use them in place of the real numbers! Come with me, and you’ll be in a world of pure imagination!” > > I’ll type slowly so you can read this: the federal government already subsidizes health care to an enormous degree. Eliminating inefficiencies and requiring people who can pay for their own health insurance to do so saves money overall. By reducing inefficiency and making people pay their own way if they can afford to, the government saves money, even though the ACA is only scratching the surface of the deep and bizarre inefficiencies in the health care market. > Yeah, and I don’t give a shit about the opinions of people like you who make up your own facts, and evidently don’t care about the fact that one group of “corporate money whores” :rolleyes: are the ones responsible for almost all of that debt. If you actually gave a shit about this, and bothered to learn anything about it, you’d see that there’s one group of “corporate money whores” :rolleyes: who are disproportionately responsible. But you don’t actually give a shit about this, which is why you’re yammering about something that you, as we have discussed previously, know _jack shit_ about. I do give a shit, that’s why I even said anything at all about it, as ignorant of the facts as I may be. I worry about this tremendous debt being foisted on future generations and anything that resembles massive government spending makes me nervous. I’ll extend the olive branch and apologize for insulting you and for my ignorance of the facts. I suppose I have some homework to do. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/69 "2012-06-29T22:22:38Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > . . . There will be no good future for this country if we don’t reverse course WRT spending immediately. . . . Or increase taxes to Reagan-era levels. Or even Clinton-era levels. Or maybe even a little of both. Maybe that’s too moderate for some people. The ones to whom “compromise” is a dirty word. ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/70 "2012-06-29T22:39:08Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > According to Free Republic[he is worse than Benedict Arnold.](http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2900394/posts). Thats not true, Arnold was a traitor, but he eventually saw the light. I ought to quote that. Some highlights from that thread: > [@](#): > > Eff John Roberts. He knew The Kenyan is not a Natural Born Citizen, yet he swore him in. > > And now this?? > [@](#): > > He is every bit as much a traitor as Arnold … worse, in fact. He is an oathbreaker, just like 0bama, kagan, sotomayor, ginsberg, and breyer, and every worthless fascist democRat in congress that voted for this abomination. > [@](#): > > Clearly, they have blackmail material on Roberts… > > He looks like a fag to me. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/71 "2012-06-29T22:49:02Z")
Perfectly reasonable views, really. > [@](#): > > John Roberts is an evil creature. He has cast the deciding vote to end his country and constitution. He has effectively made this a slave nation. > > Research and discovery will now die because there will no longer be purpose and profit in it. It is much more cost effective to kill off those who are no longer healthy. He has effectively financed murder through abortion and death panels. He has made a mockery of all those who fought and died for the freedom of this country. > > He has resigned millions to a life of poverty and government benefits at a cost to those of us who may still be able to tread water. Make no doubt this is a job killing business killing bill. This is death on many levels some of which we have not even begun to realize. > > Be prepared to have your appetites curbed as well because make no mistake that what you eat will be curtailed in the name of health. > > I could go on but am so furious there are no more presentable words that I have left. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/72 "2012-06-29T22:53:03Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > I ought to quote that. > > Some highlights from that thread: Thank you for taking the time to do that, and saving the rest of us from having to read so much stupid shit. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2012, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/73 "2012-06-29T23:01:43Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > I’m born in Danville, VA., went to school in Richmond, VA. Lived in Durham, NC for five years. I’m Southern. No, sir, you are a Virginian and Southerners should be noticed…well, never, actually, but they did come in handy during the inconvenience of 1861-65. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/74 "2012-06-30T00:13:02Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > We really should have let the Confederacy go back in 1861. > > Then we should have nuked them after 1945. What’s wrong with nuking them _in_ 1945? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/75 "2012-06-30T00:20:04Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > Or increase taxes to Reagan-era levels. Or even Clinton-era levels. > > Or maybe even a little of both. > > Maybe that’s too moderate for some people. The ones to whom “compromise” is a dirty word. Isn’t a big part of the issue WRT government revenues that something like 46-48% of Americans don’t even pay taxes? That’s a huge problem if so. I would have no problem with tax increases if it would help make the government solvent in x number of years, but…putting increased revenue into their hands makes me believe they will just spend it fruitlessly rather than pay down the debt. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/76 "2012-06-30T00:21:53Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Isn’t a big part of the issue WRT government revenues that something like 46-48% of Americans don’t even pay taxes? Only if you’re Sean Hannity. Everyone pays taxes. Only ~50% pay\* income\* taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/77 "2012-06-30T00:23:26Z")
No billboards yet AFAICT but [you can get “Impeach John Roberts” buttons](http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby.145738043). ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/78 "2012-06-30T00:29:25Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > No billboards yet AFAICT but [you can get “Impeach John Roberts” buttons](http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby.145738043). I think there are multiple t-shirts out there right now. Not interested in looking. Just sitting here, gloating. Will keep me going the rest of the year. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/79 "2012-06-30T00:31:19Z")
It’s starting to feel like a reverse 1960s, with the right wing being the counterculture this time around. I remember all sorts of “Impeach” buttons and not just for Nixon, but even for LBJ. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2012, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658/80 "2012-06-30T00:32:33Z")
> [@Slithy\_Tove](#): > > I was born on June 7. I share this birthdate with Beau Brummell, Dean Martin and Prince. This swells me with pride. It informs my personal sense of self-worth and cultural identity. So, preemptively, fuck you for making any critical remarks about Beau Brummell, Dean Martin or Prince. You never can resist the temptation to make those cheap shots using tired stereotypes. My personal outrage is, of course, entirely justified. Because I was born on June 7. If you were not, then shut the fuck up. Beau Brummel was a silly snotty clotheshorse, Dean Martin was a Mobbed-up drunk, Prince is a legendary asshole . . . [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-earl-warren/626658.md?page=5)