# Impeach Noem, Bovino? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 28, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128 "2026-01-28T18:26:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/1 "2026-01-28T18:26:45Z")
Just wondering if there’s been any suggestion of impeachment of Noem and Bovino, in light of the killings in Minneapolis? And their responses? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/2 "2026-01-28T18:28:28Z")
I’ve seen calls for their firing. Is Bovino even in a position where impeachment applies? ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/3 "2026-01-28T18:40:53Z")
I’m watching CNN right now, and this is being discussed, regarding Noem. Chyron: “Growing calls for Kristi Noem to resign or be impeached.” Sounds like it could become an ultimatum. Nothing on Bovino, but I thought of this thread as the item came on CNN, and figured I’d toss it out there. . ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/4 "2026-01-28T18:43:00Z")
Yeah, [it’s a thing](https://apnews.com/article/minneapolis-shootings-kristi-noem-ice-congress-add9ac7b90f5677621009e8a603c0141). Joaquin Castro and others have been calling for her to be fired. If not, there’s been talk of impeachment. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/5 "2026-01-28T18:44:04Z")
Noem has already made it clear that she was just following orders (from Steven Miller and Trump, specifically). They’re already making moves to scapegoat her, I don’t know why Democrats are jumping on the bandwagon to help. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/6 "2026-01-28T18:50:39Z")
> [@steronz](#): > > They’re already making moves to scapegoat her, I don’t know why Democrats are jumping on the bandwagon to help. Well, one: She really deserves it, even if the rest of them deserve it too. Two: Republicans actually turning on one of their own should be encouraged, even if we know they’re doing it cynically; this maybe makes it easier to impeach the next one in line. Three: They might be able to get her to testify, and maybe she starts telling tales about all the other shit she “Followed orders” to do. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/7 "2026-01-28T18:52:34Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Is Bovino even in a position where impeachment applies? No, Bovino is not the type of civil officer that can be impeached. Neither is Stephen Miller. Only Trump and Noem could be impeached. Basically, outside Pres roles, you have to be Senate confirmed to be removed via impeachment. That’s usually the directors and deputy-directors of the departments that were senate-confirmed (and not temp “acting” directors). On another note, if you just know this info, you can guess who the scapegoat is most likely to be (Name/How long they’ve been around): Trump (2016) Miller (2016) Noem (2025) ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/8 "2026-01-28T19:03:03Z")
My guess is, the trump admin unceremoniously fires Noem in the next week or so as a sacrificial scapegoat, and they hope that causes the outrage to go away. Miller will stay around as long as trump stays in office. ---
**Author:** ![CoolHandCox](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coolhandcox/32/16233_2.png) [@CoolHandCox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CoolHandCox)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/9 "2026-01-28T19:36:25Z")
Trump doesn’t care about what is happening/what he did. Trump only cares about the _coverage_ about what is happening/what he did and how the coverage affects him personally. He usually will deflect and just start talking about something else, say Greenland or Venezuela or whatever, to change the coverage onto something else. That usually works. This time feels different, so here, to change the coverage, he had to soften his “tone” about what happened, and move Bovino out, etc. The policy is the same, the tactics are unchanged, just trying to change the coverage through smoke and mirrors. If the coverage goes how it usually does, it’ll move onto something else. I doubt there’s even a need for a scapegoat. It’s hard to tell how the next few weeks or month or so will go. But if there is sustained coverage/political pressure, then my guess would be Noem. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/10 "2026-01-28T19:40:19Z")
I posted a couple of links about Noem and Miller in the ICE thread. A couple of Republicans are now calling for Noem and Miller to be impeached, joining Democrats. > **[Two GOP senators say Kristi Noem's time is up at the Department of Homeland...](https://www.ms.now/news/kristi-noem-fired-impeached-tillis-murkowski-republicans)** > > Sens. Thom Tillis and Lisa Murkowski said it was time for the secretary to move on, while President Donald Trump called them both "losers." Trump in turn has called them “losers”. [NEWSMAX: Trump Blasts GOP Sens. Tillis, Murkowski as ‘Losers’](https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-thom-tillis-lisa-murkowski/2026/01/28/id/1243871/) I used Newsmax as a source because I think it’s telling that even the far-right are reporting on how Trump and other Republicans are feuding over this issue. Earlier, Pretti’s union called for them to be gone as well (demanding that they resign). > **[AFGE demands resignations of Noem, Miller following member’s slaying](https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2026/01/afge-demands-resignations-noem-miller-following-members-slaying/410986/)** > > The nation’s largest federal employee union said key leaders involved in the Trump administration’s crackdown on immigration and dissent “defamed” VA nurse Alex Pretti by erroneously describing him as a “domestic terrorist.” Bovino, of course, was already removed from the situation. There is speculation that he will be gone soon. But the _Seattle Times_ quoted one expert that doesn’t think that will change much of anything, because Stephen Miller is the one behind the escalations. > **[Bovino was the face of Trump's hardline immigration raids. Now his future is...](https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/bovino-was-the-face-of-trumps-hard-line-immigration-raids-now-his-future-is-in-question/)** > > Gregory Bovino's future is now in limbo as public outrage has swelled against the Trump's administration's aggressive tactics, particularly in Minnesota. But will his departure really change the administration's playbook? > “I think it’s a grave mistake to think the change in the personnel on the ground constitutes a change in policy,” said Lucas Guttentag, a professor of law at Stanford University who specializes in immigration. “Because the policy remains the same: to terrorize immigrant communities and intimidate peaceful protesters.” > > Even if Bovino is ousted or given a lesser role, Guttentag said, national immigration policy is still shaped by Stephen Miller — the White House deputy chief of staff for policy and homeland security adviser who has embraced hard-line enforcement tactics. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/11 "2026-01-28T21:33:47Z")
Very interesting. Thanks all. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/12 "2026-01-28T21:39:15Z")
They will through her under the bus which is what this admin does. It does not absolve them of there own criminal activities though. But get rid of the puppy killer. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2026, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/13 "2026-01-28T23:33:09Z")
I’m all for shit-canning Noem. Ideally directly into life in prison for premeditated murder. But spare a thought for what kind of replacement trump & miller will install. Himmler was not an improvement over Rohm. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/14 "2026-01-29T00:29:56Z")
Impeachment is a meaningless waste of time when there is no chance of a conviction. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/15 "2026-01-29T00:53:27Z")
Yes. Do not even try to impeach unless you’re _assured_ of removal. Trying and failing to remove isn’t demonstrating resolve. It’s proving impotence. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/16 "2026-01-29T01:16:27Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Do not even try to impeach unless you’re _assured_ of removal. I’ve posted that way about Trump, because it’s important not to unnecessarily hand him a win. But I doubt it’s so important to avoid handing a corrupt cabinet member a symbolic victory. If House Democrats do have enough votes to impeach, and really do need to show progressives they are fighting, it’s important, from a big tent standpoint, that the articles of impeachment go beyond humanitarian concerns. They should consider: [How Firm Tied to Kristi Noem Got Piece of $220 Million DHS Ad Contracts](https://www.propublica.org/article/kristi-noem-dhs-strategy-group-senate-probe) And: [Buying Luxury Jets with Taxpayer Money](https://democrats-homeland.house.gov/news/press-releases/ranking-member-thompson-statement-on-kristi-noem-buying-luxury-jets-with-taxpayer-money-during-the-republican-shutdown-for-her-personal-use) And: [Kristi Noem secretly took a cut of political donations](https://southdakotasearchlight.com/2025/06/30/kristi-noem-secretly-took-a-cut-of-political-donations/) ---
**Author:** ![penultima\_thule](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penultima_thule/32/3833_2.png) [@penultima\_thule](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/penultima_thule)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/17 "2026-01-29T01:31:49Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > They will through her under the bus which is what this admin does On a technicality, the preferred method of disposal is a wood chipper. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/18 "2026-01-29T04:40:23Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Trying and failing to remove isn’t demonstrating resolve. It’s proving impotence. It’s shooting the devil, and missing. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/19 "2026-01-29T14:21:16Z")
Yeah, I assumed Bovino was in one of those “unceremoniously shit-can” positions that wouldn’t require impeachment. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2026, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128/20 "2026-01-29T14:32:04Z")
Did I hear it right that they would remove ICE if Minnesota gave the feds all of their voting records? That would just give them ammo to threaton and intimidate people even more. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeach-noem-bovino/1027128.md?page=2)