# Impeachment? Then, what? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 7, 2019, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331 "2019-01-07T05:22:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/121 "2019-01-11T15:30:43Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Nuts like Pelosi and Schumer recognize that there isn’t any there there. Channeling KellyAnn much? If there wasn’t any there there, would Donald be in such a panic? The only one who could definitively say what is there is Bob Mueller. He doesn’t talk much but when he does, we will all listen. I think obstruction of justice is a slam dunk, conspiracy with a hostile government to influence and election is another. In addition, there may be money laundering and racketeering, witness tampering, and God knows what else. Distracting the public with a fight over a monument to racism isn’t going to change things. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/122 "2019-01-11T15:33:13Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The only trouble with this is that it isn’t true. The only ones who think there is enough/any evidence to impeach Trump are nuts like Ocasio-Cortez and Tlaib. Nuts like Pelosi and Schumer recognize that there isn’t any there there. Pure nonsense. The only reason we haven’t seen the evidence is because for the last two years the Republicans who controlled every branch of the government have been doing everything they can to avoid investigations. But despite their best efforts, evidence keeps leaking out. Which means two things: There’s a mountain of evidence out there so big it can’t be buried. And Donald Trump is as incompetent at hiding his crimes as he is at everything else. And now the Democrats have the power to actually go looking. Trump’s barely been able to keep his head above water despite everyone in the government trying to prop him up for the last two years. He won’t be able to handle facing some actual opposition. He’s going to crumble. ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/123 "2019-01-11T15:33:53Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The only trouble with this is that it isn’t true. The only ones who think there is enough/any evidence to impeach Trump are nuts like Ocasio-Cortez and Tlaib. Nuts like Pelosi and Schumer recognize that there isn’t any there there. > > At least with Clinton it could be proven that he lied under oath and obstructed justice. You don’t have anything like that level of proof with Trump, and if the nuts in the House try impeachment it will fail badly. > > Democrats control the House. It remains to be seen if nutcases control the Democrats. > > Regards, > Shodan Clinton didn’t lie under oath until he’d been hauled into a grand jury resulting from a long congressional investigation. Once Mueller establishes sufficient evidence to empanel a grand jury (and it can’t be long now), we’ll see how many times Individual #1 perjures himself. I’d put the over/under at 20. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/124 "2019-01-11T15:49:42Z")
It’s worth noting that Trump’s lawyers have been working to prevent him from _being_ under oath as he cannot be relied upon not to lie. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/125 "2019-01-11T16:14:46Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Channeling KellyAnn much? If there wasn’t any there there, would Donald be in such a panic? The only one who could definitively say what is there is Bob Mueller. He doesn’t talk much but when he does, we will all listen. I think obstruction of justice is a slam dunk, conspiracy with a hostile government to influence and election is another. In addition, there may be money laundering and racketeering, witness tampering, and God knows what else. Distracting the public with a fight over a monument to racism isn’t going to change things. Suspect Mueller’s team is having to buy more servers every week just to catalog it all. New York, Maryland and New Jersey are after Trumps ass as well. Last I saw, there are 17 investigations into Trump. With regard to everything else. Trump “University”. And the money paid (oh, excuse me a ‘campaign contribution’) to Florida DA Pam Bondi to drop a criminal investigation against him. We need to dig her out from under her rock as well. The depth of Trumps corruption is obscene. ---
**Author:** ![BenedictusXIV](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b19c9b/32.png) [@BenedictusXIV](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BenedictusXIV)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/126 "2019-01-11T16:23:20Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > At least with Clinton it could be proven that he lied under oath and obstructed justice. Puh-lease. I don’t care what extramarital affairs Clinton had. I don’t care what extramarital affairs Trump has (although the lack of Republican outrage is pathetically hypocritical). Questions related to that shouldn’t even be asked publically and/or under oath. I’m talking about collusion with a hostile nation, self-enrichment, obstruction of justice in a criminal investigation. These are actions that belong in a banana republic and should not be tolerated. Evidence is piling up and as more facts submerge, Trump simply changes his lies. That alone is an indication that he knowingly and willingly participated. We will see how much of it can be proven in the end and how much he will get away with. For democracy’s sake I hope no crime will go unnoticed and no crime will remain unpunished. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/127 "2019-01-11T17:42:03Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The only ones who think there is enough/any evidence to impeach Trump are nuts like Ocasio-Cortez and Tlaib. > > Regards, > Shodan #ILoveThatStory. Seriously, and I say this as Someone Who Cares…get rid of all the razorblades and sleeping pills in your house. Depressive episodes brought on by watching the news are nothing to sneeze at, and at this point I don’t think even Fox News is going to be able to sufficiently sugar this pill. A little pre-emptive protection now might save you from a 3 a.m. low point. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/128 "2019-01-11T17:49:20Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > :citation needed: To date, has either one initiated, or requested, impeachment proceedings commence? Would that be because they don’t have any actual evidence to support impeachment, or have they both simply decided to give Trump a break from political rhetoric and harassment out of the kindness of their little bitty, stone-cold, hearts? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/129 "2019-01-11T17:57:26Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > #ILoveThatStory. > > Seriously, and I say this as Someone Who Cares…get rid of all the razorblades and sleeping pills in your house. Depressive episodes brought on by watching the news are nothing to sneeze at, and at this point I don’t think even Fox News is going to be able to sufficiently sugar this pill. A little pre-emptive protection now might save you from a 3 a.m. low point. Just saying. Hahahaha. That sounds like good advice for all of those Democrats, Hillary worshippers, and lame stream media members who’s heads are constantly exploding due to the fact that they haven’t produced any actual evidence that would warrant starting impeachment proceedings. Claims that they have actual evidence is not the same as actually having evidence. ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/130 "2019-01-11T18:23:43Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Hahahaha. That sounds like good advice for all of those Democrats, Hillary worshippers, and lame stream media members who’s heads are constantly exploding due to the fact that they haven’t produced any actual evidence that would warrant starting impeachment proceedings. Claims that they have actual evidence is not the same as actually having evidence. PSA for you: alcohol poisoning is a difficult and nasty method of offing yourself. Just saying. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/131 "2019-01-11T18:59:28Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > To date, has either one initiated, or requested, impeachment proceedings commence? Would that be because they don’t have any actual evidence to support impeachment, or have they both simply decided to give Trump a break from political rhetoric and harassment out of the kindness of their little bitty, stone-cold, hearts? That is rich. Republicans separate children from their families without regard to their health or how they will reunite them, shut down the government screwing over the employees, seek to end healthcare for the middle and lover classes to fund massive tax breaks for the rich, impose tariffs that ultimately cost US jobs, open public lands for exploitation by their corporate cronies, vilify any one who doesn’t meet their standards of white European heterosexual, and a dozen or so other disgraceful acts, but Pelosi and Schumer are the ones with the little bitty, stone-cold, hearts. Sure. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/132 "2019-01-11T19:19:18Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > That is rich. > > Republicans separate children from their families without regard to their health or how they will reunite them, shut down the government screwing over the employees, seek to end healthcare for the middle and lover classes to fund massive tax breaks for the rich, impose tariffs that ultimately cost US jobs, open public lands for exploitation by their corporate cronies, vilify any one who doesn’t meet their standards of white European heterosexual, and a dozen or so other disgraceful acts, but Pelosi and Schumer are the ones with the little bitty, stone-cold, hearts. > > Sure. Thanks. You need to get your information to Pelosi and Schumer ASAP. Your information is probably what they’ve been waiting for. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/133 "2019-01-11T19:27:32Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > PSA for you: alcohol poisoning is a difficult and nasty method of offing yourself. Just saying. 🆒 That’s your 2nd post concerning suicide. You seem to be obsessed with methods of suicide. That doesn’t sound healthy. You might want to talk to someone about it. Unless you are suggesting that other posters should commit suicide? You might want to talk to someone about that, also. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/134 "2019-01-11T20:19:51Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > It’s worth noting that Trump’s lawyers have been working to prevent him from _being_ under oath as he cannot be relied upon not to lie. Put Trump under oath for one hour and I’ll bet he’ll commit a dozen counts of perjury. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/135 "2019-01-11T20:26:45Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > To date, has either one initiated, or requested, impeachment proceedings commence? Would that be because they don’t have any actual evidence to support impeachment, or have they both simply decided to give Trump a break from political rhetoric and harassment out of the kindness of their little bitty, stone-cold, hearts? The Democrats took power eight days ago. Saying Trump hasn’t been impeached yet is pretty slim pickings. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/136 "2019-01-11T20:46:36Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > To date, has either one initiated, or requested, impeachment proceedings commence? Would that be because they don’t have any actual evidence to support impeachment, or have they both simply decided to give Trump a break from political rhetoric and harassment out of the kindness of their little bitty, stone-cold, hearts? You don’t pull the trigger until you’ve loaded the gun. That doesn’t mean you’re afraid you’ll miss the target. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/137 "2019-01-11T22:17:25Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > To date, has either one initiated, or requested, impeachment proceedings commence? Would that be because they don’t have any actual evidence to support impeachment, or have they both simply decided to give Trump a break from political rhetoric and harassment out of the kindness of their little bitty, stone-cold, hearts? You know what some prosecutors do? They wait for the investigation to complete before pressing charges. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/138 "2019-01-12T15:22:01Z")
> [@CaptMurdock](#): > > PSA for you: alcohol poisoning is a difficult and nasty method of offing yourself. Just saying. 🆒 That two personal cracks, CaptMurdock. Don’t do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/139 "2019-01-12T15:24:41Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Please. Trump admitted on national TV to obstruction of justice. That’s just the start. More things that aren’t true. I get that extremists think they already have evidence. The thing is, they don’t. It’s a pity, in a way. But at least the House will be wasting its time investigating, and agreeing with each other in loud voices, instead of wasting its time legislating. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/140 "2019-01-12T15:51:28Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > More things that aren’t true. I get that extremists think they already have evidence. The thing is, they don’t. > > It’s a pity, in a way. But at least the House will be wasting its time investigating, and agreeing with each other in loud voices, instead of wasting its time legislating. > > Regards, > Shodan I don’t suppose you’re concerned a bit that the FBI is investigating whether the person occupying the White House is a Kremlin agent? Forgive my lapse of memory, but you remind me of when the FBI was investigating whether Obama or either of the Clintons were Russian agents? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331.md?page=8)