# Impeachment?  Then, what?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 7, 2019, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331 "2019-01-07T05:22:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/141 "2019-01-12T17:16:49Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> I don’t suppose you’re concerned a bit that the FBI is investigating whether the person occupying the White House is a Kremlin agent?
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> Forgive my lapse of memory, but you remind me of when the FBI was investigating whether Obama or either of the Clintons were Russian agents?

This is an easy one. It will simply be claimed that the FBI were “in the tank” for Obama, or that the investigation into Trump for following Russian orders is fake news, or even if it is happening, it’s just political business as usual, both sides do it. Here’s an easy list - just choose one:

- The other party does it too
- Fake news
- The FBI are all democrats and/or biased
- It does not matter until someone is charged
- It does not matter until someone is convicted
- It does not matter until all appeals are over
- It’s old news, lets move on
- What about Hillary? She’s a criminal.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Conrad\_Shadowdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ea924/32.png) [@Dr.Conrad\_Shadowdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Conrad_Shadowdale)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/142 "2019-01-13T00:16:46Z")

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Isn’t it logical that, had there been credible evidence that the President were a double agent for Russia (words I never thought I’d write), we might know that by now?

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**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/143 "2019-01-13T01:18:40Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> That’s your 2nd post concerning suicide. You seem to be obsessed with methods of suicide. That doesn’t sound healthy. You might want to talk to someone about it. Unless you are suggesting that other posters should commit suicide? You might want to talk to someone about that, also.

Given that you’re the one who brought up the subject of exploding heads, I don’t think MY stability is not the one you should be questioning.  
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/144 "2019-01-13T14:07:48Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> This is an easy one. It will simply be claimed that the FBI were “in the tank” for Obama, or that the investigation into Trump for following Russian orders is fake news, or even if it is happening, it’s just political business as usual, both sides do it. Here’s an easy list - just choose one:
> 
> - The other party does it too
> - Fake news
> - The FBI are all democrats and/or biased
> - It does not matter until someone is charged
> - It does not matter until someone is convicted
> - It does not matter until all appeals are over
> - It’s old news, lets move on
> - What about Hillary? She’s a criminal.

Somewhere in that list, I would add “the real scandal here is the way the [Democrats|anti-Trump liberal media] are trying to sensationalize this issue for [political gain|ratings]. _That’s_ what we should be focusing on.”

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/145 "2019-01-13T14:15:16Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Somewhere in that list, I would add “the real scandal here is the way the [Democrats|anti-Trump liberal media] are trying to sensationalize this issue for [political gain|ratings]. _That’s_ what we should be focusing on.”

You are hilarious! What, precisely, would be the political gain?? 😕 And ratings? Sir, your boy is king of the ratings and no one can match him. Bye.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/146 "2019-01-13T15:20:26Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Somewhere in that list, I would add “the real scandal here is the way the [Democrats|anti-Trump liberal media] are trying to sensationalize this issue for [political gain|ratings]. _That’s_ what we should be focusing on.”

So the problem isn’t that Trump is being investigated seven ways to Sunday about conspiracy with a hostile foreign power (among about a dozen other things). The problem is that Democrats and the 'liberal media are concerned and report it.

Got it.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/147 "2019-01-13T15:25:25Z")

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OMG let’s read for content please.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/148 "2019-01-13T15:46:06Z")

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> [@ThelmaLou](#):
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> You are hilarious! What, precisely, would be the political gain?? 😕 And ratings? Sir, your boy is king of the ratings and no one can match him. Bye.

> [@enipla](#):
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> So the problem isn’t that Trump is being investigated seven ways to Sunday about conspiracy with a hostile foreign power (among about a dozen other things). The problem is that Democrats and the 'liberal media are concerned and report it.
> 
> Got it.

You missed the point. Vinyl Turnip isn’t offering this as a legitimate response. He’s saying it’s the kind of irrelevant response that the Republicans make when people point out Trump’s flaws.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/149 "2019-01-13T15:49:13Z")

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> [@Dr.Conrad\_Shadowdale](#):
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> Isn’t it logical that, had there been credible evidence that the President were a double agent for Russia (words I never thought I’d write), we might know that by now?

Why? The Republicans have controlled the government for the last two years and have been working very hard to avoid anything being found.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2019, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/impeachment-then-what/827331/150 "2019-01-13T16:39:01Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Somewhere in that list, I would add “the real scandal here is the way the [Democrats|anti-Trump liberal media] are trying to sensationalize this issue for [political gain|ratings]. _That’s_ what we should be focusing on.”

[Natasha Bertrand](https://www.vox.com/2019/1/12/18179662/trump-russia-mueller-fbi-new-york-times) stated it more clearly:

> [@](#):
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> Stepping back for a minute: If no other reporting existed on Trump/Russia, the fact that the FBI started a CI investigation to determine whether or not the sitting president of the US was either comprised by or an agent of Russia, it would be the biggest political story…ever.

That help ya any?

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