# Imus Show Dissing Jill Carroll: WTF??? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2006, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900 "2006-04-02T02:15:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/121 "2006-04-03T03:27:34Z")
> [@Menocchio](#): > > I hope no one you love is ever held hostage. I know that no one you know ever has been, or you wouldn’t be displaying such a hideous lack of empathy. No, both of my parents were killed on 9/11. Take your empathy and stick it up your ass. Fuck you. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/122 "2006-04-03T03:32:04Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > No, both of my parents were killed on 9/11. Take your empathy and stick it up your ass. Fuck you. :mad: Sorry for your loss, but having been through that, how can you be blind and dumb enough to call her a traitor? Shouldn’t you have some kind of a clue what terrorism really is? Jill Carroll is about as much of a traitor as the people trapped on the planes that day. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/123 "2006-04-03T03:33:42Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > No, both of my parents were killed on 9/11. Take your empathy and stick it up your ass. Fuck you. :mad: I don’t believe you for a second but even if you’re telling the truth (which you aren’t), you’re still a vile little shit who lacks empathy. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/124 "2006-04-03T03:35:10Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > No, both of my parents were killed on 9/11. Take your empathy and stick it up your ass. Fuck you. :mad: And I’m sorry for that, but you really are not getting any advantage for that in this discussion, like someone from that region would tell you the blood debt has already been paid many times over (do you ignore on purpose the innocent collateral damage? (hint: many times they were the parents of others) And are you really that dense that even this late you still think Iraq had anything to do with 9/11? ---
**Author:** ![elelle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f0a364/32.png) [@elelle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elelle)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/125 "2006-04-03T03:35:12Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > A victim of what, exactly? Her do-gooder attitude that got her over there in the first place? Ok, so you have me with wanting to understand your point. OK, by being a “Do-Gooder” Elaborate on that, specifically why a journalist “got her there” Realy, do tell. ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/126 "2006-04-03T03:36:45Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Sorry for your loss, but having been through that, how can you be blind and dumb enough to call her a traitor? Shouldn’t you have some kind of a clue what terrorism really is? Jill Carroll is about as much of a traitor as the people trapped on the planes that day. Um, no. They never would have made a propaganda video for the enemy, under any circumstances. Instead, their airplane flew into the WTC. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/127 "2006-04-03T03:38:57Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Um, no. They never would have made a propaganda video for the enemy, under any circumstances. Sure they would, under enough duress. Anybody would, including you (and all it it would take for you is acouple of bitch slaps). Neither you nor your alleged parents has any special, superpowers to resist torture. ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/128 "2006-04-03T03:43:16Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > I don’t believe you for a second but even if you’re telling the truth (which you aren’t), you’re still a vile little shit who lacks empathy. FUCK OFF ASSHOLE. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/129 "2006-04-03T03:44:43Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > FUCK OFF ASSHOLE. Nope. Not convincing, Try a bigger font. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/130 "2006-04-03T03:45:35Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > They never would have made a propaganda video for the enemy, under any circumstances. You’re full of promises, but not much else. You don’t think anybody on those planes wouldn’t have said a few empty words if it saved their lives? ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/131 "2006-04-03T03:46:13Z")
I’m sensing this thread may be closed soon, so I for one would like to make a plea for it not to be in advance. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/132 "2006-04-03T03:46:14Z")
Geez…you can’t even handle people disagreeing with you on a message board. Why do I doubt you’d need to have your fingernails pulled out to make a video for your captors? IF it’s true that your parents were killed on 9/11, I’m very sorry for your loss. I can hardly be blamed for doubting the veracity of that, however. It’s exactly the kind of thing someone who’s into a very bad argument WAY over his head would pull out of his ass in order to get everyone to leave him alone. ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/133 "2006-04-03T03:46:50Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You’re full of promises, but not much else. You don’t think anybody on those planes wouldn’t have said a few empty words if it saved their lives? They didn’t have a chance. ☹ Fuck you too. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/134 "2006-04-03T03:48:12Z")
**Updike** , just on the slender chance that you’re telling the truth, how would you feel if some asshole on the radio (or on this message board) started making insinuations that your parents were in on the plot and that they weren’t really victims? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/135 "2006-04-03T03:48:49Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > They didn’t have a chance. ☹ That’s exactly my point, you idiot. And hey, not that I didn’t say it before, but fuck you too. It’s too bad your loss has made you blind to the suffering of others. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/136 "2006-04-03T03:50:07Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > You don’t think anybody on those planes wouldn’t have said a few empty words if it saved their lives? I’m sure some of them tried, and had any of them been successful in finding some magical combination of words to deflect the terrorists, no matter how false, no matter how disgusting, no matter how sycophantic, that person would be a hero. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/137 "2006-04-03T03:51:45Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Um, no. They never would have made a propaganda video for the enemy, under any circumstances. Instead, their airplane flew into the WTC. :mad: Why didn’t they take on the terrorists? Why didn’t they risk their lives and cause the plane to crash in some isolated area like the one in Shanksville did? Obviously, they were too scared. Cowards. ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/138 "2006-04-03T03:51:45Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > **Updike** , just on the slender chance that you’re telling the truth, how would you feel if some asshole on the radio (or on this message board) started making insinuations that your parents were in on the plot and that they weren’t really victims? If they were in on the plot, they’d be perpatrators, not victims. On the other hand, your insinuation about my family are making me really :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/139 "2006-04-03T03:53:22Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > On the other hand, your insinuation about my family are making me really :mad: After all the infuriating things you’ve said thus far, maybe you should tone down the emotion and the emoticons and try thinking. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2006, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900/140 "2006-04-03T03:54:27Z")
> [@Updike](#): > > Um, no. They never would have made a propaganda video for the enemy, under any circumstances. Instead, their airplane flew into the WTC. :mad: Sorry, but you are wrong on this too, after the show of violence **all hostages in the planes** headed to the WTC followed the orders of their captors, based on what hijackers usually did before 9/11, the use of hostages in propaganda was to be expected, from 9/11 forward all passengers have to assume the worse and act accordingly, but unfortunately back then that was not the case. Finally, IIRC the Al-qeada bastards have used the footage of the planes crashing in their propaganda, now where is Osama? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/imus-show-dissing-jill-carroll-wtf/350900.md?page=8)