# In a libertarian society...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 12, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458 "2011-10-12T20:27:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1001 "2011-10-31T21:33:03Z")

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You all are just detail guys. These things would all work themselves out.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1002 "2011-10-31T21:58:37Z")

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A billion years from now, this will all seem rather unimportant… We’re just too close to the issue, and need to step back and take a more cosmic viewpoint…

Trinopus (except that earth is blocking my view of venus…)

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1003 "2011-10-31T22:14:10Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> A billion years from now, this will all seem rather unimportant… We’re just too close to the issue, and need to step back and take a more cosmic viewpoint…
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> Trinopus (except that earth is blocking my view of venus…)

For eleven million axiobucks, I’ll let you drill a 60" in diameter hole through my property, and out the [antipode](http://www.zefrank.com/sandwich/tool.html) of my lot of the earth; an acre of the Indian Ocean floor, the waters above it and the atmosphere on top of it, to create an 8,000 mile tube through the center of the earth to see Venus.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1004 "2011-10-31T22:47:07Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> For eleven million axiobucks, I’ll let you drill a 60" in diameter hole through my property, and out the [antipode](http://www.zefrank.com/sandwich/tool.html) of my lot of the earth; an acre of the Indian Ocean floor, the waters above it and the atmosphere on top of it, to create an 8,000 mile tube through the center of the earth to see Venus.

Ha! I’ll offer the same, but for only 10 million nine hundred ninety nine thousand axiobucks.

Let’s see how this race to the bottom works out.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1005 "2011-10-31T22:53:02Z")

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1 axiobuck! Going once…

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1006 "2011-10-31T23:18:49Z")

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I’ll wager 30 axiobucks on the newcomer…

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1007 "2011-10-31T23:36:25Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> For eleven million axiobucks, I’ll let you drill a 60" in diameter hole through my property, and out the [antipode](http://www.zefrank.com/sandwich/tool.html) of my lot of the earth; an acre of the Indian Ocean floor, the waters above it and the atmosphere on top of it, to create an 8,000 mile tube through the center of the earth to see Venus.

Sure smart guy. After this tube idea of yours disturbs the geomagnetic field of the earth, causing us all to be showered with cosmic rays, killing all life on earth… BOY, am I going to sue you! Ha! That will show you!

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1008 "2011-10-31T23:36:39Z")

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All I have are these Stanley nickles. How many Stanley nickles in an axiobuck?

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1009 "2011-10-31T23:37:17Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> Also **Terr** , how do you plan to control invasive species in Libertaria? I’m guessing you feel if someone wants to put some Kudzu like plant on their property, then that’s their right? (even if it quickly gets out of control)

Based on his previous answer regarding backyard fires, I’ll assume he’d suggest people form a voluntary neighbourhood kudzu watch.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2011, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1010 "2011-10-31T23:55:22Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> For eleven million axiobucks . . .

> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Ha! I’ll offer the same, but for only 10 million nine hundred ninety nine thousand axiobucks. . . .

See? The free market in action, solving problems the way God intended!

(I was _this close!_ to asking if “axio” was a real exponential prefix, like giga and tera – literally, my finger was on the button to submit the post! – before I realized where it came from! Huge happy grin! Axiogrins!)

axioTrinopus!

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1011 "2011-11-01T00:07:09Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> I’ll wager 30 axiobucks on the newcomer…

Sorry, all bets must be placed in quatloos.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1012 "2011-11-01T00:28:29Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Sorry, all bets must be placed in quatloos.

Yeh, but that’s only for arena games and other bloodsport. You can then exchange your quatloos for axiobucks depending on the exchange rate, after all bets are closed.

I mean, we have to maintain _some_ level of civility. It’d be unseemly to use a blood-soaked quatloo at your friendly neighborhood barter’s square. As for Stanley nickels, they’ve been disbanded (it being practically worthless due to the minority being almost entirely killed off) you can smelt them and exchange their value in scrap metal.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1013 "2011-11-01T00:50:58Z")

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Actually, since the Changeover, you can scrap out all your old coins and burn your bills as fire starter. Now that we closed all vestiges of the Federal banking system, including the mints, every individual and every Podunk “contractual township” are coining their own. So before you can make any transaction you have to negotiate a contract agreeing to the medium of exchange. Just one more convenience of living in Libertopia! And everybody say \* Praise Galt! \*

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**Author:** ![IdahoMauleMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/71c47a/32.png) [@IdahoMauleMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IdahoMauleMan)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1014 "2011-11-01T01:49:54Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Actually, since the Changeover, you can scrap out all your old coins and burn your bills as fire starter. Now that we closed all vestiges of the Federal banking system, including the mints, every individual and every Podunk “contractual township” are coining their own. So before you can make any transaction you have to negotiate a contract agreeing to the medium of exchange. Just one more convenience of living in Libertopia! And everybody say \* Praise Galt! \*

How do people conduct transactions on Second Life, or other online virtual communities? Does it happen the way you describe above?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1015 "2011-11-01T02:11:16Z")

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> [@IdahoMauleMan](#):
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> How do people conduct transactions on Second Life, or other online virtual communities? Does it happen the way you describe above?

I’m not totally clear on your point here. Are you implying that we will not need central federal banking, because we can rely on online virtual financial transactions in libertopia?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1016 "2011-11-01T06:45:51Z")

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> [@IdahoMauleMan](#):
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> How do people conduct transactions on Second Life, or other online virtual communities?

I understand it tends to involve floating penises.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1017 "2011-11-01T13:06:00Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> I’m not totally clear on your point here. Are you implying that we will not need central federal banking, because we can rely on online virtual financial transactions in libertopia?

I had a friend who tried that “virtual financial transactions” thingy for a while. But she had to give it up after they shut off her lights, water, and gas and posted a big sign reading EVICTION on her front door.

I’m just sayin’…

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1018 "2011-11-01T15:02:00Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> I understand it tends to involve floating penises.

That’s what it always comes down to, doesn’t it? Floating penises.

Never floating blowing balls. Just penises.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1019 "2011-11-01T15:52:06Z")

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> [@cmyk](#):
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> That’s what it always comes down to, doesn’t it? Floating penises.
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> Never **floating blowing balls**. Just penises.

Bolding above is mine.

Gotta ask – are you having a pool party, or what?

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-a-libertarian-society/599458/1020 "2011-11-01T16:27:03Z")

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> [@CannyDan](#):
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> Bolding above is mine.
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> Gotta ask – are you having a pool party, or what?

No, since the local and federal fascist government won’t let me build a mercury pool in my backyard, what’s the point?

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