# In All Of Cuisine, Are There Any Recipes That Require Starting In A Cold Oven?

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**Created:** [May 27, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-all-of-cuisine-are-there-any-recipes-that-require-starting-in-a-cold-oven/1002149 "2024-05-27T18:06:22Z")\
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Just made some Rhodes cinnamon rolls; they come frozen in an aluminum pan. The directions say to place in a cold oven set to 350 degrees and bake for 30-40 minutes. I suppose it’s to get it baking while you go take a shower (that’s what I did).

“Cuisine?” Perhaps. But I wonder how long they would take in a preheated oven, or if the rolls weren’t frozen.

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Lower temperature also seems to give more control over the degree of crunch – which seems hard to avoid at higher temperatures – and not just the EXTENT of crunch.

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> [@JohnGalt](#):
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> “Cuisine?” Perhaps. But I wonder how long they would take in a preheated oven, or if the rolls weren’t frozen.

Most frozen items that require a particular “initial state” for preparation will explicitly state that. Some items that are intended to be cooked frozen will turn to mush if left to defrost prior to cooking. Others just have reduced cooking times.

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> [@dgy](#):
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> The first batch of my benne wafer Rx would not fare well if allowed to thaw slowly in the warming oven; they want to be cooked hot and quick to be nice and crisp without turning to “puddles” on the cookie sheet.
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> Some Rxs really

This is my 1st time encountering “Rx” to mean, I presume, “baked goods.”

I’m only familiar with it as an abbrev. for “medical prescription.” Is this a regionalism? (Just curious.)

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Recipe

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No kidding, huh - thanks. Learned a thing.

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I’ve never seen it used that way in describing a recipe, but could figure it out from context. I’m curious, too, whether that is common.

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It’s the original word for which Rx was an abbreviation, In apothecaries of course 🙂

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I too have problems spelling receipt.

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I knew what it stood for originally (from the Latin imperative “take”), but the context threw me off.

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Are there other contexts where the _x_ stands for _ecipe_? Because if not, it might be a little D_x_tve.

They say _y’all_ in the South, leaving out the _ou_, so I presume that S’theners enjoy s’p while l’nging on the c’ch.

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I also figured it out from context and thought it odd. Then it occurred to me that originally a prescription would have been a formulation that a pharmacist mixed together. A recipe is a formulation that a cook mixes together. It’s perfectly logical.

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RIP Mitch Hedberg

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Oh, it’s logical. It’s just unusual.

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The recipe for [James Beard’s Cuban bread](https://www.food.com/recipe/cuban-bread-147540) calls for starting the baking in a cold oven,

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See [Rx definition](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Rx). It is intended as a shorthand for “recipe”. Think of it as a “prescription” for a particular set of actions to achieve a desired goal.

Sorry, I write a lot and very quickly (and need to replace this damn keyboard for not being up to the challenge!) so adopt lots of abbreviations to expedite that. E.g., will refer to my other half by first initial in emails – it doesn’t take long for people to come to that realization (from context and past interchanges).

Dx = diagnosis, Ca = cancer, wrt = with respect to, esp = especially, etc. Plus all of the colloquialisms that have crept into common electronic interactions…

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Electric oven here. You set the temp and the oven beeps when it reaches temperature. I’ll have to time it precisely to see how long it takes to beep for a standard 350 degrees/

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Not a recipe but a “method” - the method I read and have stuck by for re-heating cold pizza calls for starting in a cold oven. Probably for a similar reason as @JohnGalt 's cinnamon rolls.

(put pizza on rimmed baking sheet, cover tightly with foil, put in cold oven on lowest rack, bake @275F for 25 mins)

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Yep. Thx for the lesson.

I am skeptical about Dx for _diag_ tho’.

🤭

(B4 you know it we’ll all be talking in pix.  
Oh, NM emojis, I fg)

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Dx for diagnosis, tx for therapy, hx for history are standard medical abbreviations.

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