# In defence of Russia **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 6, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166 "2022-08-06T00:49:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/81 "2022-08-06T04:21:47Z")
> [@Kedikat](#): > > I am totally defeated by the facts and logic of your argument. We’ll start playing chess when you stop playing Candyland. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/82 "2022-08-06T04:22:58Z")
> [@Kedikat](#): > > Perfect sense. > Expend even more resources and lives. > Attack NATO directly. > Can you guys level up a bit? Putin did say that he wants to conquer all of the former Soviet states. ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/83 "2022-08-06T04:24:53Z")
Noted. Thanks. And I really mean that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/84 "2022-08-06T04:28:26Z")
Fuck off. I’m pretty genuine about that. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/85 "2022-08-06T04:29:33Z")
> [@Kedikat](#): > > If things remain at this childish level. You get what you deserve. And pointing and laughing at you is all you deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/86 "2022-08-06T04:37:21Z")
Not sure what you mean. Immediately before the invasion? ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/87 "2022-08-06T04:43:11Z")
The gift that keeps on giving. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/88 "2022-08-06T04:44:46Z")
Well, after the invasion, a security threat to Russia from Ukraine is what Putin gets _for_ invading. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/89 "2022-08-06T04:44:53Z")
I know you think you are being clever but…what “gift” do you think you are receiving? ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/90 "2022-08-06T04:47:51Z")
He didn’t. It was very badly, sloppily, presented as that, without context. I will try and link to that talk. If I can find it. For now, that is my unsubstantiated reply. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/91 "2022-08-06T04:48:27Z")
And again I ask: Do you think Putin would be seen in a better light if he would stop having his political rivals jailed and/or assassinated? ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/92 "2022-08-06T04:49:26Z")
The quality of his discourse. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/93 "2022-08-06T04:52:42Z")
You are honestly being given better responses than you deserve. ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/94 "2022-08-06T04:54:11Z")
And again I reply. Yes, as would so many other world leaders and governments. I am fearful of my own government, because I state my opinions. Free speech is coming at ever greater cost in so many Democratic, Liberal, Western, countries. Some democratic countries, kill, imprison without trial or even charge, their own citizens. So cast your stones. But how many targets are you ignoring? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/95 "2022-08-06T05:01:02Z")
My country, the United States of America, oft times sucks donkey dick and needs a shitload of improvement. I have revealed enough personal information for my country to easily find me…but I do not fear recrimination at all. No, all countries are NOT the same when it comes to freedom of speech, and Russia (now, more than ever directly because of that asswipe Putin) is near the top when it comes to repression. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/96 "2022-08-06T05:03:22Z")
> [@Kedikat](#): > > But how many targets are you ignoring? Which specific country are you trying to divert attention from? Would it possibly be the one this thread is about? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/97 "2022-08-06T05:04:04Z")
> [@Kedikat](#): > > Some democratic countries, kill, imprison without trial or even charge, their own citizens. One might note the lack of examples for; _democratic countries,_ _kill,_ _imprison without trial,_ _charge,_ and _their own citizens_ but only if one were bored. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/98 "2022-08-06T05:07:12Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You get what you deserve. And pointing and laughing at you is all you deserve. > [@scabpicker](#): > > You are honestly being given better responses than you deserve. [![](https://i.imgflip.com/1wpuie.jpg) ](https://i.imgflip.com/1wpuie.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Kedikat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kedikat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kedikat)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/99 "2022-08-06T05:08:03Z")
Completely aside from the flame part of the reply. You really do need to be careful about revealing too much information online. This forum does seem to be very well kept. But any personal thing you say here is a small snippet, like a piece of a jigsaw puzzle. Consider all the other pieces you leave here and there on the internet. If some person gets worked up enough at you to start searching. Maybe they can find enough to really harass you in real life. It has happened, a lot. Doxxing. It is a thing. Can be devastating. So take care. I would never ask a personal detail of anyone here. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/100 "2022-08-06T05:08:48Z")
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