# In defence of Russia

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**Created:** [August 6, 2022, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166 "2022-08-06T00:49:24Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 6, 2022, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-defence-of-russia/969166/4 "2022-08-06T02:09:38Z")

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> [@Russia invades Ukraine {2022-02-24} (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/russia-invades-ukraine-2022-02-24-part-1/960037/6853):
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> Nations have their security concerns. All through history a nation will go to war when those concerns are pressed far enough.

Ukraine was ZERO threat to the Russia Federation. Aside from being smaller, poorer, and having a smaller military, it had surrendered its nuclear capability in return for a promise for its borders to be respected.

NATO is not a threat to Russia (except in the mind of some Russians who, regrettably, seem to be in charge there). Don’t want NATO to fight you? Don’t attack a NATO member. The only thing NATO was a threat to here was Russia ambition to conquer a weaker neighbor.

Russia started this war, full stop. It is entirely the fault of Russia, no one else.

I agree, Ukraine itself was not a threat. But its military was being trained to NATO integration standards. It desired to be in NATO. If in NATO there would be NATO bases in it. That is a threat to Russia. Also, one does not have to attack NATO to be attacked by NATO. NATO has conducted military operations against those who have not attacked NATO members.

I agree, Russia started the war. Obviously. But one should not ignore the reasons for wars starting. Past and present, wars could have been averted.

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