I said the post you quoted. You didn’t quote the OP. Besides, there is nothing in the OP that “reveres” stare decisis.
But I’m sure you’d go all stare decisis on his ass if he suggested Roe should be overturned.
Well, let’s see if Bricker agrees.
Bricker what about the Establishment Clause? I honestly can’t see how this is not a violation.
Which religion is being “established”?
Does it have to be establishment of one particular religion now?
If you’re being a textualist, probably. But even if we were allowing that the 1st amendment prohibits the establishment of “generic religion”, in what way is the establishing “religion”.
I really do wish the first amendment said something like “there will be a wall of separation between Church and State, and the government may not invoke religion in any manner in the course of executing its duties”. But it says no such thing, nor would such an amendment pass in the US.
Next thing you know, they’ll be putting: “In יהוה we trust” on our money.
If God won’t allow money changers in the temple, then we’ll force God to go to the money changers by putting him on the currency. Take that, God!
Christianity. That is the “God” being referred to on money and in other so-called “ceremonial deism”.
Got a cite that it’s the Christian God? And even if it is, how is that “establishing” Christianity? Is Christianity being “established” every time Obama says “God bless the United States of America”?
Seriously?
The fact that that’s specifically why it was put there? And as has been already been pointed out, the guaranteed reaction to mentioning some other god on it shows that it’s about Christianity.
Of course - that’s why he does it. It’s all about making it clear that this is a Christian country, and if you aren’t a Christian you are a second class citizen at best, and probably an outright traitor.
I see that you are new here and thus have never participated in this particular subject before.
:rolleyes:
Yeah. I Googled “In God We Trust” and it brought me to this MB. You guys are really smart!!!
From Wiki(but available all over the internet):
Seems the easiest thing to do would be to have Congress establish a new motto (perhaps back to E Pluribus Unum like on the seal) and putting that on money going forward.
You win.
Well, that’s nice and all, but it doesn’t prove that it references the Christian God.
For Instance… I’m an atheist, and I still say “Merry Christmas” to folks as Christmas time. But I’m using it in it’s secular sense, not in the sense that I’m actually participating in some Christian ritual.
When the government puts “In God We Trust” on the currency today, I’m sure plenty of folks in the government, including our Constitutional Scholar in Chief" will tell us that it’s an all-inclusive God. The God of the Christians, the Jews, the Muslims, the Hindus, the Whatevers.
So, the good Reverend may have had his Christian motives, but the entire Congress voted on this, and we don’t know the motives of each and every Congresscritter at the time. And you’ll note that it’s supported by 90% of Americans today, which is way more then the percentage of Christians in the country.
Personally I don’t care which god it means, there is no reason for mention of religion of any sort.
Short of my being able to time travel and read minds then answering while being tied up with Wonder Woman’s Magic Lasso, I don’t what the hell you are looking for in the way of evidence. A Christian reverend petitioned to put “Almighty God” on our currency to show that “Almighty God” was on our side…and you think there’s some ambiguity as to which deity he might have been referring to??
No, I’m sure he meant the Christian God. But he wasn’t in Congress and he didn’t vote on the resolution. We don’t know what Congress was thinking. They may very well have had a more inclusive meaning in mind. Aaaaaaaaaand… we are free to re-interpret that phrase today if we wish, so even if most everyone in the 1860s was thinking “Christian God”, we don’t need to think that today.
And since we clearly know that many non-Christians are OK with that phrase, I think we can safely assume that many people in the US today do interpret that phrase to not be limited to The Christian God.