# In Islam, what's the worst/most blasphemous thing you can do?

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**Created:** [January 19, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584 "2016-01-19T16:24:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
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Pretty much as the title, if you are a Muslim what is the worst thing you can do according to the tenets of the faith? What’s the worst thing a nonbeliever can do?

Though about asking in GQ but given the varieties of Islam out there I’m pretty sure opinions will have to enter into it. I don’t know enough about it to give a concrete answer on either, I’m guessing that one of the worst things if not the worst would be to claim you are a new Prophet and try and add/edit to the Koran, which would contradict a core belief, but I’m not sure, thoughts?

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**Author:** ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/2 "2016-01-19T16:31:09Z")

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if you move this to the BBQ Pit I will tell you

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/3 "2016-01-19T16:34:26Z")

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[Shirk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirk_(Islam)).

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> [@AK84](#):
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> [Shirk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirk_(Islam)).

I got the impression it was [apostasy.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam)

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/5 "2016-01-19T16:51:29Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I got the impression it was [apostasy.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam)

Shirk by defination is apostasy.

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**Author:** ![teflon\_grut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@teflon\_grut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teflon_grut)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/6 "2016-01-19T16:53:16Z")

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Is this by any chance related to the term “shirk” as in “shirk your responsibility?”

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/7 "2016-01-19T17:05:27Z")

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> [@teflon\_grut](#):
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> Is this by any chance related to the term “shirk” as in “shirk your responsibility?”

I wondered the same thing, and they don’t appear to be related. Our English word seems to be from a German slang word for a rogue or scoundrel.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/8 "2016-01-19T17:09:39Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Shirk by defination is apostasy.

Shirk would appear to be a subset of apostasy, that is, converting to idolatry or paganism. Would conversion to Christianity, Buddhism, or atheism be seen as somewhat less severe than that?

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/9 "2016-01-19T17:27:12Z")

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I doubt if there is a clear answer to an analogous question about Christianity, either. What blasphemous act in Christian dogma is most likely to consign your soul to everlasting torment?

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/10 "2016-01-19T17:33:55Z")

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It seems that the greatest sin in Islam is idolatry or more precisely “Associating anything with Allah.”

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/11 "2016-01-19T17:36:33Z")

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Don’t know about most blasphemous, but the Kaaba butt plug is said to be one of the most painful.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/12 "2016-01-19T17:37:00Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> I doubt if there is a clear answer to an analogous question about Christianity, either. What blasphemous act in Christian dogma is most likely to consign your soul to everlasting torment?

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit. It is the only sin that is unforgivable, an irreversible ticket to the lake of fire.

[Luke:9-10](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+12%3A9-10&version=NIV)

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> 9 But whoever disowns me before others will be disowned before the angels of God. 10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> I doubt if there is a clear answer to an analogous question about Christianity, either. What blasphemous act in Christian dogma is most likely to consign your soul to everlasting torment?

Matthew 12:31; “Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.”

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/14 "2016-01-19T17:43:17Z")

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OK, then, I stand corrected. And irreversibly doomed, which I guess is something I can use as incontestable proof that proselytizers might as well just go away and leave me alone.

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> OK, then, I stand corrected. And irreversibly doomed, which I guess is something I can use as incontestable proof that proselytizers might as well just go away and leave me alone.

Don’t be so sure, there’s ways around it, [namely](https://redeeminggod.com/sermons/matthew/matt_12_31-32/) that thinking about this sin and whether you’ve committed it is proof that you’ve not, since the sin is really about rejecting the spirit so that you don’t give a moment’s thought about it.

> [@AK84](#):
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> [Shirk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shirk_(Islam)).

Ah, thanks **AK84**. Would polytheism rank worse even than, say atheism? Or claiming you’re the successor to Muhammad?

> [@Robert163](#):
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> if you move this to the BBQ Pit I will tell you

Er, well I can’t move it anywhere, PM me I guess.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/16 "2016-01-19T22:10:22Z")

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Splashing pig’s blood on the Kaaba? Digging up Mohammed’s body and dressing it in B&D gear?

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-islam-whats-the-worst-most-blasphemous-thing-you-can-do/743584/17 "2016-01-19T22:29:44Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Matthew 12:31; “Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.”

Which is kinda funny when you think about it. For many Christians the “holy ghost” gets a “ohh, I almost forgot about that part of it” reaction.

So, ironically, the part you should most respect is the one most ignored:smack:
