# "In Living Color" creator sues Disney over "Hannah Montana"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 25, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928 "2007-08-25T21:16:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![iluvurmom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iluvurmom/32/7276_2.png) [@iluvurmom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iluvurmom)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/21 "2007-09-06T17:57:58Z")

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I have watched all of these shows and it sounds like someone might have gotten ripped off here…I did not know that very interesting story there.

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**Author:** ![Ceejaytee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ceejaytee/32/2956_2.png) [@Ceejaytee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ceejaytee)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/22 "2007-09-06T20:10:21Z")

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[QUOTE=SurrenderDorothy]  
watch the show and you’ll probably change your mind. It’s absolutely beyond dreadful. I swear to you, Hannah Montana is a scourge upon the earth. It’s too stupid even for ten-year-old girls.  
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Having just spent much time with my 11 and 5 year old nieces, I can confidently state that all shows on the Disney channel will cause your brain to ooze right out of your ears. I’ve never seen so much dreck in one place. Although I did like the brainless charm of London Tilton (or whatever) on The Suite Life of Zac and Cody, surely a show that could otherwise cause uncontrollable bleeding from the eyes.

Hannah Montana is pretty horrific, but yeah, that must be an idea that’s been around for eons.

ETA: Perhaps I should finish reading the thread before posting of the evils of Zac and Cody, thus saving my brain from unnecessary agony.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/23 "2007-09-06T23:05:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Ceejaytee]  
London Tilton (or whatever)  
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Tipton. She’s got a whole hotel chain named after her, so her name isn’t that hard to remember…unless you’re her. Wait, she’s got a hotel named after her? Yay her!

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/24 "2007-09-07T01:35:30Z")

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[QUOTE=mobo85]  
She’s got a whole hotel chain named after her, so her name isn’t that hard to remember  
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Wow! How do they come up with these wonderful ideas? Genius!

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![H3Knuckles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ba8739/32.png) [@H3Knuckles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/H3Knuckles)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/25 "2007-09-07T02:02:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Zoggie]  
It makes me long for the days when Nickelodeon had some really smart, funny and quirky TV shows. Where would shows like “Pete and Pete” or “Clarissa Explains It All” or “Are You Afraid of the Dark?” fit into a world like this?  
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I apologize for the drive-by, but I just had to say that **Zoggie** is apparently _totally awesome_! Those really were some great shows, and I got a kick when I saw you mention them.

…hmm, we should get a smilie throwing the horns…

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**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/26 "2007-09-07T02:09:39Z")

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You always think kids’ shows were better in the past, mainly because back then you were a kid!

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/27 "2007-09-07T16:35:48Z")

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[QUOTE=stolichnaya]  
So, Ronnie made a record, went straight up to number one?  
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Hence the sequel, “You’re a Junkie, Ronnie [Lastname]!” where, among other adevntures, he dies in his bed.

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**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/28 "2007-09-07T17:53:30Z")

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Someone refresh my memory. Was it known at the local high school that Keith and Laurie Patridge were part of the critically accliamed and famous group the Patridge Family? 😉 I seem to remember they went to school and had friends and all that. What I don’t recall was anybody being impressed with their status as famous singers.

Also: I hate everything on Disney except the Little Einsteins.

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**Author:** ![Millit\_the\_Frail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Millit\_the\_Frail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Millit_the_Frail)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/29 "2007-09-07T18:16:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Ceejaytee]

ETA: Perhaps I should finish reading the thread before posting of the evils of Zac and Cody, thus saving my brain from unnecessary agony.  
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No, expound! Dan Savage has a hilarious rant about the evils of Zac and Cody that ran on This American Life. It’s truly an evil show.

Anyway, I miss old Nick too. I bought DVDs of Pete and Pete so I can show them to my kids someday. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Ceejaytee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ceejaytee/32/2956_2.png) [@Ceejaytee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ceejaytee)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/30 "2007-09-07T18:47:34Z")

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[QUOTE=mobo85]  
Tipton. She’s got a whole hotel chain named after her, so her name isn’t that hard to remember…unless you’re her. Wait, she’s got a hotel named after her? Yay her!  
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That’s so like her it was positively frightening! Yay you!

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/31 "2007-09-07T19:24:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Ellen Cherry]  
Someone refresh my memory. Was it known at the local high school that Keith and Laurie Patridge were part of the critically accliamed and famous group the Patridge Family? 😉 I seem to remember they went to school and had friends and all that. What I don’t recall was anybody being impressed with their status as famous singers.  
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Much as I hate to admit it, I recall an episode where Keith’s female classmates were stealing things from him, including a pickle out of which he had taken a bite, and one even brazenly snipped a lock of his hair. So naturally Danny went into business selling authentic Keith Partridge memerobilia.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/32 "2007-09-07T19:30:37Z")

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[QUOTE=An Gadaí]  
You always think kids’ shows were better in the past, mainly because back then you were a kid!  
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Nah. I saw Pete & Pete as an adult, and it was much better then most of the shows on when I was a kid. Nick right after they stopped showing the European shows (quite good) had a golden age.

I’m a bit biased about Pete & Pete though.

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/33 "2007-09-07T19:40:01Z")

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[QUOTE=mobo85]  
Sheffield pitched an idea to Disney for a TV show entitled _ **Rock and Roland** _, which would have revolved around Roland Dillard, an ordinary kid who, unbeknownst to most of his friends, is also a famous singer named Rock Ryder.  
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Did the character wear a rainbow wig?

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/34 "2007-09-07T19:47:03Z")

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[QUOTE=H3Knuckles]  
I apologize for the drive-by, but I just had to say that **Zoggie** is apparently _totally awesome_! Those really were some great shows, and I got a kick when I saw you mention them.  
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Hehe, thanks.

I thought it was just me, as a kid, but I’ve gone back and watched a bit of my older shows. They still hold up. Admittedly, some of them are bad or so bad they’re good (certain Are You Afraid of the Dark episodes), but a lot of them are very clever, even by the standards of adult shows. (Granted, that’s not all that hard.) They were quirky and off-beat and so random, in a way that these current shows seem to lack.

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**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/35 "2007-09-07T19:50:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Pochacco]  
She wears a wig when she’s Hannah Montana.

Hey, Superman hid his secret identity with just a pair of glasses … .  
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> [@](#):
>
> Furious: Yeah well that’s 'cause Lance Hunt /is/ Captain Amazing.  
> Shoveler: Oh, don’t start that again.  
> Raja: Oh, here we go.  
> Shoveler: Lance Hunt wears glasses. Captain Amazing doesn’t wear  
> glasses.  
> Furious: He takes them off when he transforms.  
> Shoveler: That doesn’t make any sense. He wouldn’t be able to see.

Mystery Men (1999)  
[http://www.futurerealms.com/mmtrans.html](http://www.futurerealms.com/mmtrans.html)

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/36 "2007-09-07T22:30:56Z")

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[QUOTE=Ceejaytee]  
That’s so like her it was positively frightening! Yay you!  
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Yay me! Wait, what were we talking about again? Oh, right, me! Yay me!

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/37 "2007-09-08T00:15:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Zoggie]  
It makes me long for the days when Nickelodeon had some really smart, funny and quirky TV shows. Where would shows like “Pete and Pete” or “Clarissa Explains It All” or “Are You Afraid of the Dark?” fit into a world like this?  
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Not to mention “You Can’t Do That on Television.” Moose lives!

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Socks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a8b319/32.png) [@Captain\_Socks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Socks)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2007, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-living-color-creator-sues-disney-over-hannah-montana/416928/38 "2007-09-08T00:22:11Z")

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We should have a Hate on the Disney Channel thread where we can vent out our anger. I think I’ll start one.

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