# In memory of Detroit Muscle...Damn you Obama! **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 7, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224 "2012-11-07T15:29:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/1 "2012-11-07T15:29:21Z")
Post-election terrors! I hadn’t thought of this because I was too busy dismissing the right-wing noise about Obama coming for our guns and right to self-govern. Damn those morons, with their blathering—they distracted us from the real target in the sights of our twice-elected dictator: our internal combustion engines! Think about it, my fellow automotive enthusiasts & commuters! For four years BO has struggled to undo W’s attempts at restoring order and stability to the OPEC region; to undermine Israel as the sole unifying entity of the Arab world; and to develop non-fossil fuel energy sources and clean commuter technology including electric cars and gasoline variants with emissions restrictions attainable only in science fiction! Emboldened by the gift of a second and final term, we will now see the fruition of his grand plan, couched in clean & green rhetoric, to relieve us of our beloved hooptys, our ricers, and even _ulp_ NASCAR! If only the conservatives had been more reasonable and stilled the cacophony of maniacal cries for a birth certificate and other nonsense, I and others of sight might have groked this wicked man’s true scheme in time to stop him. ---
**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/2 "2012-11-07T19:40:01Z")
Don’t NASCAR cars mostly run on alcohol? I’ll start worrying when Obama goes after the distilleries. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/3 "2012-11-07T20:16:11Z")
You sure you’re not thinking of the fans? ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/4 "2012-11-07T20:28:12Z")
> [@Kimballkid](#): > > Don’t NASCAR cars mostly run on alcohol? I’ll start worrying when Obama goes after the distilleries. The fuel is only 15% alcohol. [http://www.gosunoco.com/sunoco-racing/nascar/](http://www.gosunoco.com/sunoco-racing/nascar/) ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/5 "2012-11-07T20:38:06Z")
Petroleum can still have their niche uses, such as in racing or car enthusiasts, but if you still want clean emissions with a kick, let’s get to work on nuclear powered Challengers. I’m calling Dodge now… ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/6 "2012-11-07T20:41:08Z")
Meh. I don’t give a shit if it runs on duck farts, but I’m never going to be happy untill I can buy a decent family sedan for a reasonable price (let’s say 20K) that does 0-60 in under 5 and tops out above 150. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/7 "2012-11-07T20:42:06Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > You sure you’re not thinking of the fans? > [@Bear\_Nenno](#): > > The fuel is only 15% alcohol. Still have to wonder if you’re talking about the cars or the fans. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/8 "2012-11-07T21:54:16Z")
No, no; it’s NASCAR cars mostly [_carry_ alcohol](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASCAR#Early_stock_car_racing). ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/9 "2012-11-07T22:05:19Z")
I wonder if I can get him to subsidize my conversion project? A few grand to help convert a classic car to run on electricity wouldn’t set his diabolical schemes back much, I’m sure, and it would certainly make things easier for me. (My calculations show, by the way, that my car will have significantly _more_ muscle post-conversion. Maybe I shouldn’t tell him that part?) ---
**Author:** ![Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/regallag_the_axe/32/445_2.png) [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Regallag_The_Axe)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/10 "2012-11-07T22:22:11Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Still have to wonder if you’re talking about the cars or the fans. Not the fans; you need some of those fancy, liberal, micro brews to get 15%. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/11 "2012-11-07T22:37:11Z")
> [@Regallag\_The\_Axe](#): > > Not the fans; you need some of those fancy, liberal, micro brews to get 15%. See, this is your east coast parochialism showing - they don’t just drink beer. There is a lot of Jack Daniel’s and Jim Beam involved also. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/12 "2012-11-07T23:14:43Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > See, this is your east coast parochialism showing - they don’t just drink beer. There is a lot of Jack Daniel’s and Jim Beam involved also. Elitist. MD 20/20 and Night Train are right in that 13-18 sweet spot. Just like brides in certain NASCAR-lovin’ areas. (too far?) ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/13 "2012-11-07T23:55:59Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > I wonder if I can get him to subsidize my conversion project? A few grand to help convert a classic car to run on electricity wouldn’t set his diabolical schemes back much, I’m sure, and it would certainly make things easier for me. (My calculations show, by the way, that my car will have significantly _more_ muscle post-conversion. Maybe I shouldn’t tell him that part?) Watch this: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=369h-SEBXd8](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=369h-SEBXd8) ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-memory-of-detroit-muscle-damn-you-obama/640224/14 "2012-11-08T02:12:25Z")
> [@cmyk](#): > > Petroleum can still have their niche uses, such as in racing or car enthusiasts, but if you still want clean emissions with a kick, let’s get to work on nuclear powered Challengers. Yeah, the thing a lot of car enthusiasts fail to realize is that the more our day-to-day transportation needs can be shifted to alternative fuels, the more petroleum there is left for us. All that oil out there should be going into my various old project cars, not some boring driving appliance.