# In My Humble Opinion, Trump has made even children into racist scumbags.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 8, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831 "2018-05-08T21:48:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/181 "2018-05-15T15:19:27Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Or we could humor him and say the term is offensive and derogatory and only bigots use it. That way we could avoid the r-word which triggers him so badly.
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> Semantics is the last refuge of the intolerant.

“I’m _sick and tired_ of being called a racist when I’m actually a closed-minded hyperpartisan bigot who uses ethnic slurs!”

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**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/182 "2018-05-15T15:58:49Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> The Hispanic Race.  
> [The American Race.](https://nyaspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1749-6632.1911.tb56933.x)
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> [The Mexican Race.](http://international.ucla.edu/institute/event/8896)
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> Suck it up, Buttercup.

You do realize that the entire concept of humans and “race” is a bullshit idea produced out of bigotry?

You aren’t really helping your argument here at all

The effects of racism are very real, but the concept is false.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/183 "2018-05-15T16:03:40Z")

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Hey **Skywatcher** , get out of the mud. The pigs will just keep changing the debate and you’ll just keep getting muddy. They’re racist troglodytes who are jerking chains just to see you dance. Pointing, laughing, and throwing shit is the better response.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/184 "2018-05-15T16:05:07Z")

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> [@rat\_avatar](#):
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> You do realize that the entire concept of humans and “race” is a bullshit idea produced out of bigotry?

Hey, I’m not the one who brought in definitions. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/185 "2018-05-15T16:07:59Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> “I’m _sick and tired_ of being called a racist when I’m actually a closed-minded hyperpartisan bigot who uses ethnic slurs!”

Yes, this is a weird hill to choose to die on. “Wetback” is a slur aimed at Mexicans specifically, according to lots of dictionaries. Arguing whether it’s a racist slur or an ethnic slur is bizarre, arguing that it only applies to people who have literally swum the Rio Grande is to ignore common practice, and using it at all may or may not make one a “racist” but it certainly makes one an “asshole”.

Which brings us back on topic: “Trump” isn’t making kids into racist scumbags. Racist scumbags made Trump what he is, and they’re also making kids just like them. If **Clothahump** isn’t racist, he’s certainly racist-adjacent.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/186 "2018-05-15T16:09:00Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> “I’m _sick and tired_ of being called a racist when I’m actually a closed-minded hyperpartisan bigot who uses ethnic slurs!”

I’m stealing this. Just so you know 🙂

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/187 "2018-05-15T16:14:32Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Hey **Skywatcher** , get out of the mud. The pigs will just keep changing the debate and you’ll just keep getting muddy. They’re racist troglodytes who are jerking chains just to see you dance. Pointing, laughing, and throwing shit is the better response.

Maybe, but watching them twist their logic into pretzels while they perform their mental gymnastics is rather fun.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/188 "2018-05-15T17:51:49Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> I could literally keep going for dozens of pages.

[Moderating]  
I would recommend against that.  
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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/189 "2018-05-15T17:59:31Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Is any other conservative Doper willing to endorse this post, or otherwise comment on it? Bone? F-P? Shodan? Bricker? Anyone?

You wound me. I’m not a conservative.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/190 "2018-05-15T18:17:32Z")

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I am offended as i consider myself to be a New England/ William F. Buckley Conservative.

Not that this has any relation to how the Republican party has behaved in the past 30 years

> [@Bone](#):
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> You wound me. I’m not a conservative.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Tapatalk

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/191 "2018-05-15T18:35:07Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Learn this: there is NOTHING racist about the term “wetback”. It does NOT refer to race in the slightest. It refers to actions taken, most notably swimming across the Rio Grande to enter the country illegally. And seriously: if you cannot see that clearly and comprehend that, then Cecil needs to change the board motto.
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> Oh, and quit trying to play the “troll” buzzword on me as well. My pointing out that you are using a term incorrectly may be embarrassing to you, but it is certainly not trolling you. Deal with it.

[Moderating]  
The problem you got here, **Clothahump** , is that you’ve [previously admitted to trolling on this precise point](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19946433), and [were suspended for it](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=817278&highlight).

So, this is a warning for trolling. Again. We’ll be discussing your posting privileges in the mod loop.  
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/192 "2018-05-15T18:46:05Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> You wound me. I’m not a conservative.

Then what are you? Libertarian?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/193 "2018-05-15T18:53:16Z")

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Yes, of course. Though I register as independent because the official Libertarian Party is a bit too extreme for me.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/194 "2018-05-15T21:38:00Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Is any other conservative Doper willing to endorse this post, or otherwise comment on it? Bone? F-P? Shodan? Bricker? Anyone?

I’m not one of the big names in conservative Dopers, but I am one, and I’ll chime in. This is nonsense. Racial slurs are often based on things that have nothing to specifically do with the people being targeted with said slurs: “spear chucker” could describe any decathlete, but it’s never used to describe anyone but a very specific race. The only reason someone would try to defend some sort of corner case interpretation of something like this is in order to cover up their own racism, or to rile people up while maintaining [not-actually-]plausible deniability.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/195 "2018-05-15T21:47:34Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> The problem you got here, **Clothahump** , is that you’ve [previously admitted to trolling on this precise point](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19946433), and [were suspended for it](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=817278&highlight).
> 
> So, this is a warning for trolling. Again. We’ll be discussing your posting privileges in the mod loop.  
> [/Moderating]

[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20961962&postcount=27](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20961962&postcount=27)

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/196 "2018-05-15T23:42:06Z")

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A friend in rural Pennsylvania, back in September 2016, posted this along with a picture of her olive skinned 7 year old granddaughter (of Italian heritage).

> [@](#):
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> Results of fear and hate mongering: This is my grand daughter, Susie, and her friend. Several days ago, a teen-age boy on Susie’s school bus called her names (racial slurs), threatened to cut her hair off, and told her he couldn’t wait for Donald Trump to be president, so “People like her could all be put behind the wall”. I never post personal politics on Facebook, but this is such a perfect example of what happens when people in power (parents, as well as politicians) affect our kids.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/197 "2018-05-16T00:08:00Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20961962&postcount=27](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20961962&postcount=27)

Semi-flounce, conservative martyr… all in all, one of your better efforts. An enthusiastic D plus!

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/198 "2018-05-16T00:11:44Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20961962&postcount=27](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20961962&postcount=27)

The irony, it burns.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/199 "2018-05-16T03:29:18Z")

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Good riddance to an awful human being.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2018, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/200 "2018-05-16T09:02:59Z")

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Oh dear.

Welp…who wants pie?

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