# In My Humble Opinion, Trump has made even children into racist scumbags. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 8, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831 "2018-05-08T21:48:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/121 "2018-05-12T19:01:15Z")
[quote=“octopus, post:120, topic:813831”] Are these folks racist? [/QUOTE] Don’t be obtuse, twatwaffle. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/122 "2018-05-12T19:14:55Z")
[quote=“octopus, post:120, topic:813831”] Are these folks racist? [/QUOTE] While I’m not into fishing. They seem like nice guys. Perhaps you are that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/123 "2018-05-12T19:20:33Z")
I feel obliged to offer the opinion that the whole “nationalism versus globalism” is a false dichotomy because I expect our leaders to be smart enough to formulate policies that benefit American _and_ the rest of the world. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/124 "2018-05-12T19:27:23Z")
[quote=“octopus, post:120, topic:813831”] Are these folks racist? [/QUOTE] Huh? What does this have to do with what I said? If you disagree with something, feel free to tell me what I said that you think is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/125 "2018-05-12T20:16:30Z")
“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” - Donald J. Trump, quoted by John O’Donnell [Donny’s apple didn’t fall far from daddy Fred’s tree.](https://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/01/25/woody-guthrie-sang-of-his-contempt-for-his-landlord-donald-trumps-father/) Don actively fought against the Civil Rights Movement. [In '73, the Justice Department sued Don & Fred for violating the 1968 Fair Housing Act.](https://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/2015/07/30/1973-meet-donald-trump/) [Mexican immigrants are criminal, drug dealing, rapists. But I’m sure there are some good people.](https://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/06/16/choice-words-from-donald-trump-presidential-candidate/) > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is false. I’ve explained this multiple times, but I’m a veteran and I’ve worked closely with classified materials for almost 20 years. The kinds of mistakes she made (mishandling classified information) are, unfortunately, extremely common, and they’re never prosecuted except in cases in which they were sold for profit or knowingly given to foreign agents. Your analysis is just factually false. And our current president passed classified information _in person_ but gets a pass. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/126 "2018-05-12T21:35:21Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Was your post supposed to have any kind of meaning or intelligent thought behind it? Because if that were the case, it failed miserably. Of course not. It was an obviously a joke, with precisely as much meaning and intellegent thought as went into your claim that Obama was the real racist, ie none. The difference between the posts is that my post was intentionally funny. Which brings us to the reason that no one takes you seriously on these boards. While most posters have a a certain percentage of posts that are snark, insults or content free partisanship, your posts consist almost 100% of such. With a handful of exceptions all your arguments are something of the form “No, you’re the stupid head!” or its cousin “No your party is the stupid head!” or else it is some rightwing talking point like “Hillary should be locked up!” without any argument or evidence to back it up. And even on the rare occasion you do attempt to back it up, it is inevitably refuted at which point you either ignore their responses or simply state that they are wrong without addressing the point they raise. The question I ask myself is whether this is by choice, i.e. that you are a troll whose only reason to post is to frustrate liberals with your inanity, or if it is because you really can’t tell the difference between a good argument and what you post. Note that I’m not just saying this because you are on the opposite side of the political spectrum. There are many conservative posters on this board that I disagree vehemently with but at least I recognize that they are trying t make an argument, even it its in my opinion flawed. Compare [this post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/forumdisplay.php?f=5), [this post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20946584#post20946584) and [this post](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20943184#post20943184) with [this one](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20953565&postcount=604), [this one](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20897868&postcount=17) and [this one](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20953807&postcount=4411) Note I don’t mean this to be as insulting as it probably is. It’s meant to be more of an intervention, sort of like a co-worker pulling someone aside to recommend that they use deodorant. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/127 "2018-05-12T21:53:46Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > As I have pointed out repeatedly, it doesn’t matter if he was born in Hawaii, Kenya, Timbuktu or Footrot Flats. Wait, what? Where did you read Footrot Flats? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/128 "2018-05-13T00:38:45Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Because, like “nigger”, the term is very frequently used in a racially disparaging manner, in this case against Mexicans, Mexican Americans, and Hispanics in general. Your intentions don’t change this any more than someone calling someone a nigger who didn’t mean it in a racist way. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Huh? What does this have to do with what I said? If you disagree with something, feel free to tell me what I said that you think is wrong. It seems to me you are saying intent doesn’t matter with language. Did I misread you? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/129 "2018-05-13T00:42:36Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > It seems to me you are saying intent doesn’t matter with language. Did I misread you? I was speaking specifically about **Clothahump’s** intentions, but I can see that I could have been more clear. **Clothahump** used the term in a derogatory way about Mexican immigrants, and it doesn’t matter if he was intending to be racist or not; that’s being racist. Just like the racists I knew in my childhood who said “it’s not racist – there’s black people, and then there’s niggers, and the niggers aren’t worth anything”… yes, it was racist, even if they didn’t think it was. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/130 "2018-05-13T01:51:41Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Note I don’t mean this to be as insulting as it probably is. It’s meant to be more of an intervention, sort of like a co-worker pulling someone aside to recommend that they use deodorant. Or at least stop eating it. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/131 "2018-05-13T07:04:20Z")
Stop feeding the troll. Just stop it. It’s not cute or funny. You don’t even look witty. ---
**Author:** ![anomalous1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e56c9b/32.png) [@anomalous1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anomalous1)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/132 "2018-05-13T07:38:33Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Yep. But instead of choosing a flat tire, the republican tribe chose a burning car wreck that takes out everyone else on the highway. Just 'cause. > > They could have put someone like John Kasich or even Jeb up. But no, they want to burn the whole thing down. And they are going with it. > > **Electing Trump is using a hand grenade to clear up a clogged toilet**. And what is very disappointing, to me, is how this has embolden the racists in this country. I had thought they were a dying breed. > > Perhaps this may be good in the long run. Sometimes you must shine a light in the corner to find pests. > > Trump supporters show us just exactly what they are. A different start is the result, a new fixture and new plumbing that doesn’t get clogged in the first place. Just FYI, not all Trump supporters are racist, but rather would not want to bring up the ugliness of racism and every twist and turn as the cause and end to all problems. That is the turd that keeps circling the bowl. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/133 "2018-05-13T12:25:00Z")
> [@anomalous1](#): > > A different start is the result, a new fixture and new plumbing that doesn’t get clogged in the first place. Could they not have checked to see whether the materials were available before trapping us in a room filled with porcelain shards and burnt shit? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/134 "2018-05-13T12:32:22Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Could they not have checked to see whether the materials were available before trapping us in a room filled with porcelain shards and burnt shit? And just where do you expect us to shit while we try to find a contactor? ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/135 "2018-05-13T15:50:28Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I was speaking specifically about **Clothahump’s** intentions, but I can see that I could have been more clear. **Clothahump** used the term in a derogatory way about Mexican immigrants, and it doesn’t matter if he was intending to be racist or not; that’s being racist. Just like the racists I knew in my childhood who said “it’s not racist – there’s black people, and then there’s niggers, and the niggers aren’t worth anything”… yes, it was racist, even if they didn’t think it was. I see. Concerning your childhood racists, there are black folks who use practically the same comparison today. Doesn’t that make those black folks racist as well? ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/136 "2018-05-13T16:32:16Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I see. > > Concerning your childhood racists, there are black folks who use practically the same comparison today. Doesn’t that make those black folks racist as well? yeah, I think we all heard that Chris Rock bit too . ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/137 "2018-05-13T17:06:01Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I see. > > Concerning your childhood racists, there are black folks who use practically the same comparison today. Doesn’t that make those black folks racist as well? I’ve heard the Chris Rock routine, which doesn’t really say the same thing (as well as being a comedy routine, not a sober analysis of society and people). I’m comfortable asserting that, in general, it’s racist to complain about niggers and talk about how worthless they are. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/138 "2018-05-13T19:35:04Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ve heard the Chris Rock routine, which doesn’t really say the same thing (as well as being a comedy routine, not a sober analysis of society and people). I’m comfortable asserting that, in general, it’s racist to complain about niggers and talk about how worthless they are. Wasn’t talking bout Chris Rock. But I mostly share your sentiment. I just don’t think the racial slur adds or detracts from the message. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/139 "2018-05-13T19:37:37Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Wasn’t talking bout Chris Rock. But I mostly share your sentiment. I just don’t think the racial slur adds or detracts from the message. I think it reveals something inside the speaker (usually, anyway – I’m not talking about taunting on a basketball court) – either extreme ignorance, or extreme contempt for the humanity of others, especially of members of the group targeted by the slur. In general, aside from comedy, sports-taunting, close-friends-ribbing, and perhaps a very few other situations, I think using hateful language reveals some hatefulness inside. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/140 "2018-05-14T09:19:04Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Border control and an air show is what it takes to be Hitler now? Yes, those are definitely the examples I mentioned. Oh wait, they’re not, so your handwaving away of my point is noted. Meanwhile the [drip, drip, drip](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/justice-department-press-freedom-free-trial-us-attorneys-manual-trump-adminstration-a8330036.html) goes on. > [@](#): > > Or is (R) for party affiliation sufficient? No. No it isn’t. Please don’t assume we share the same level of blind partisanship. > [@](#): > > Because I seem to recall Bush being equated to Hitler. And I seem to recall Hillary and Obama being called the same. Of course, one of those three actually opened a camp for detaining and torturing people without trial following an invasion based on false pretenses, so some comparisons are more apt than others. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831.md?page=8)