# In My Humble Opinion, Trump has made even children into racist scumbags. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 8, 2018, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831 "2018-05-08T21:48:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/161 "2018-05-14T22:48:24Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > … > > And FWIW, I have found that the one who starts yelling “racist” first…is the racist. I’ve found it’s the guy who shouts “wetback”. Go ahead, yell it around town since it isn’t racist. See how that goes for you. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/162 "2018-05-14T22:58:45Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I don’t make ignorant posts. I simply laugh at the people who make them about me. Such as you. Dude. You’re pretty dumb. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/163 "2018-05-14T23:02:20Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > And FWIW, I have found that the one who starts yelling “racist” first…is the racist. So the protesters who called Sheriff Bull Connor racist were the racists? If I call David Duke racist that means I’m racist? I’m trying to understand how this works. Since you’re calling people who call others racist “racist” first, does that make you the racist? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2018, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/164 "2018-05-14T23:11:00Z")
**Humpy** , you make the police inspector in a murder mystery look smart. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/165 "2018-05-15T00:24:51Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Let’s try a little experiment. Parse this sentence, diagram it, whatever: > > “The wetback swam across the river and entered the country illegally.” > > From that sentence, please tell us all the race of the individual described. Let’s try this with a slight twist. A tourist to the US overhears someone say, “The wetback swam across the river and entered the country illegally.” Not being American, he’s not familiar with the term “wetback,” and so does the reasonable thing when a person is confronted with an unfamiliar term: he looks it up in the dictionary. Based on the definition he finds in _literally any English-language dictionary in the world_, what race will he conclude the person described as a “wetback” must have been? ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/166 "2018-05-15T01:00:23Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > No, it isn’t. There is no indication of race in the term whatsoever. > [@](#): > > [wetback](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/wetback?s=t) > [wet-bak] > noun, Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. > 1. > a contemptuous term used to refer to a Mexican laborer who enters the U.S. illegally, as by wading the Rio Grande. > [@](#): > > [race[sup]2[/sup]](http://www.dictionary.com/browse/race?s=t) > [reys] > noun > [list=#]a group of persons related by common descent or heredity. > [li]a population so related.[/li][li]_Anthropology._[/li][list=a](no longer in technical use) any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics. > [li]an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, especially formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.[/li][li]a socially constructed category of identification based on physical characteristics, ancestry, historical affiliation, or shared culture:[/li]_Her parents wanted her to marry within her race._ > [li]a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.[/list][/li][li]a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic lineage:[/li]_the Slavic race._ > [li]any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.:[/li]_the Dutch race._[/list] You were saying…? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/167 "2018-05-15T01:03:34Z")
“I can’t be racist. Wetbacks are Caucasian, just like me!” ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/168 "2018-05-15T02:25:40Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > “I can’t be racist. Wetbacks are Caucasian, just like me!” 😃 Actually, in all likelihood, there are more Mexicans who can trace their ethnicity to indigenous peoples, including descendants of natives & Spanish troops, than any other groups. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/169 "2018-05-15T03:45:04Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > No, it isn’t. There is no indication of race in the term whatsoever. Is it derogatory? Sure, but it has to do with a person’s actions, not their race. What utter tripe. I have swum across a river between Georgia and Alabama. Not once have I ever been referred to as “wetback”. Feel free to be the first. But, of course, the word as used in English simply does not have the meaning you pretend it does. > [@](#): > > In my example sentence above, the person swimming the river could have been white, black, brown, yellow or green with purple polka-dots. You cannot derive that from the word wetback. Again, the word as used in English simply does not have the meaning you pretend it does. > [@](#): > > Liberals constantly use “racist” as a buzzword to try to shut down discussions, Actually, not all of those pointing out to you how wrong (if not outright insane) you are on this happen to be liberals. Both the liberals and others are not using the term _racist_ as a buzzword. They’re attempting to call attention to racist acts and words. > [@](#): > > and you don’t even have a clue what the friggin’ word means. Comedy gold. > [@](#): > > And FWIW, I have found that the one who starts yelling “racist” first…is the racist. I find it oddly fitting that you are using the “He who smelled it, dealt it” approach. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/170 "2018-05-15T07:11:05Z")
Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. Don’t feed the troll. I could literally keep going for dozens of pages. Don’t make me. Any moderator watching this thread is derelict in their fucking duties and should be replaced. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/171 "2018-05-15T08:27:10Z")
Oh, get the fuck over yourself, **BPC**. If you have an objection to this thread, then fucking leave it. It’s not your call to admonish the moderator of this forum because your sense of sensibility got triggered. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/172 "2018-05-15T08:37:28Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > So the protesters who called Sheriff Bull Connor racist were the racists? If I call David Duke racist that means I’m racist? I’m trying to understand how this works. > > Since you’re calling people who call others racist “racist” first, does that make you the racist? Well…duh. Otherwise **Clothahump** might just ACTUALLY say racist shit! ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/173 "2018-05-15T10:47:47Z")
I disagree that Clothahump is a troll in the sense that he is lying or misrepresenting his opinions to provoke people. He has been consistently this stupid for too long to be faking it. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/174 "2018-05-15T11:21:47Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > If that’s the case, how come I’ve never heard it used against any other race of illegal immigrants, than Mexican, or Latin Americans? Never against those from the Middle East, or Europe, Asia, or Canada? Hmm? :dubious: Because they can’t swim that far? ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/175 "2018-05-15T11:45:21Z")
Or we could humor him and say the term is offensive and derogatory and only bigots use it. That way we could avoid the r-word which triggers him so badly. Semantics is the last refuge of the intolerant. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/176 "2018-05-15T14:19:28Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > How do you get that out of those posts? “Wetback” is absolutely a racist term. > [@Skywatcher](#): > > That’s because “wetback” is a [racial](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wet-Back&page=4) [slur](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetback_(slur)). [Typical South Texas Republican.](http://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/gop-chris-mapp-defends-racial-slur) > [@bobot](#): > > You have to be simply, flat out trolling. The alternative is that you are an utter dumbfuck. An utter, racist dumbfuck. > [@iiandyiiii](#): > > A single cite-free post can prove something complicated like terminology for language usage? Are you putting us on? > [@Guinastasia](#): > > If that’s the case, how come I’ve never heard it used against any other race of illegal immigrants, than Mexican, or Latin Americans? Never against those from the Middle East, or Europe, Asia, or Canada? Hmm? :dubious: I quoted the definition above. Apparently, you ignorant twits think that being Mexican is a race. Newsflash and a big clue for you: it’s not. I gotta admit, it’s rather entertaining watching you folks make fools of yourself trying to play a trump card buzzword on me without knowing what the word means. You libs accuse everyone of being racist that you want to shut down. You play that card on _everything_. It’s gotten to the point where an exchange like this is becoming the norm: A: blah, blah B: Can you show proof of that? A: You’re such a racist for even asking Or A: I like apple pie B: That’s totally racist Learn this: there is NOTHING racist about the term “wetback”. It does NOT refer to race in the slightest. It refers to actions taken, most notably swimming across the Rio Grande to enter the country illegally. And seriously: if you cannot see that clearly and comprehend that, then Cecil needs to change the board motto. Oh, and quit trying to play the “troll” buzzword on me as well. My pointing out that you are using a term incorrectly may be embarrassing to you, but it is certainly not trolling you. Deal with it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/177 "2018-05-15T14:30:02Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I quoted the definition above. Apparently, you ignorant twits think that being Mexican is a race. Newsflash and a big clue for you: it’s not. > > I gotta admit, it’s rather entertaining watching you folks make fools of yourself trying to play a trump card buzzword on me without knowing what the word means. You libs accuse everyone of being racist that you want to shut down. You play that card on _everything_. It’s gotten to the point where an exchange like this is becoming the norm: > > A: blah, blah > B: Can you show proof of that? > A: You’re such a racist for even asking > > Or > > A: I like apple pie > B: That’s totally racist > > Learn this: there is NOTHING racist about the term “wetback”. It does NOT refer to race in the slightest. It refers to actions taken, most notably swimming across the Rio Grande to enter the country illegally. And seriously: if you cannot see that clearly and comprehend that, then Cecil needs to change the board motto. > > Oh, and quit trying to play the “troll” buzzword on me as well. My pointing out that you are using a term incorrectly may be embarrassing to you, but it is certainly not trolling you. Deal with it. Is any other conservative Doper willing to endorse this post, or otherwise comment on it? Bone? F-P? Shodan? Bricker? Anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/178 "2018-05-15T14:37:18Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Is any other conservative Doper willing to endorse this post, or otherwise comment on it? Bone? F-P? Shodan? Bricker? Anyone? Yeah, if you’re so racist that Shodan and F-P won’t defend you… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/179 "2018-05-15T15:02:36Z")
Wait, “Mexican isn’t a race” is his gotcha? That’s some preschool-level trolling, it’s almost as Machiavellian as “I’m not touching you!”. No-one will ever see through it. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831/180 "2018-05-15T15:15:23Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > I quoted the definition above. Apparently, you ignorant twits think that being Mexican is a race. Newsflash and a big clue for you: it’s not. > [@](#): > > race[sup]2[/sup] > 4. a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic lineage: > _the Slavic race._ The Hispanic Race. > [@](#): > > 1. any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: > _the Dutch race._ [The American Race.](https://nyaspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1749-6632.1911.tb56933.x) [The Mexican Race.](http://international.ucla.edu/institute/event/8896) Suck it up, Buttercup. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-my-humble-opinion-trump-has-made-even-children-into-racist-scumbags/813831.md?page=10)