# In order to save the world, angel must neuter himself in order to relate to the peons.

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**Created:** [August 12, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-order-to-save-the-world-angel-must-neuter-himself-in-order-to-relate-to-the-peons/506224 "2009-08-12T21:11:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![jackdavinci](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackdavinci/32/3259_2.png) [@jackdavinci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackdavinci)\
**Post date:** [August 21, 2009, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-order-to-save-the-world-angel-must-neuter-himself-in-order-to-relate-to-the-peons/506224/21 "2009-08-21T14:36:49Z")

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Neuter in the sense of wings / angel powers/status, not in the sexual sense. There’s a bunch of angels doing it for love, such as in City of Angels, Meet Joe Black, Wings of Desire and some other movie that I can’t think of.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-order-to-save-the-world-angel-must-neuter-himself-in-order-to-relate-to-the-peons/506224/22 "2009-08-22T07:46:57Z")

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Really, more of a circumcision than a neutering- a covenant thing with God.

Fallen angels with clipped wings is more a Samson and Delilah dilemma, mankind is the feminine aspect, and the angel and God is the masculine aspect.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-order-to-save-the-world-angel-must-neuter-himself-in-order-to-relate-to-the-peons/506224/23 "2009-08-22T10:03:13Z")

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“Neuter” in the sense of “negating their powers”- the horrid “City of Angels”.

Meg Ryan’s cute but not worth sacrificing Angelhood for, especially with the dumb biking stunt.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-order-to-save-the-world-angel-must-neuter-himself-in-order-to-relate-to-the-peons/506224/24 "2009-08-22T15:15:46Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> “Neuter” in the sense of “negating their powers”- the horrid “City of Angels”.

As with most European films that were remade for American audiences,the original [Wings of Desire](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wings_of_Desire) is superior in every way.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-order-to-save-the-world-angel-must-neuter-himself-in-order-to-relate-to-the-peons/506224/25 "2009-08-26T17:57:33Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> Neuter in the sense of wings / angel powers/status, not in the sexual sense. There’s a bunch of angels doing it for love, such as in City of Angels, Meet Joe Black, Wings of Desire and some other movie that I can’t think of.

Probably _Far Away, So Close_, the sequel to _Wings of Desire_.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-order-to-save-the-world-angel-must-neuter-himself-in-order-to-relate-to-the-peons/506224/26 "2009-08-26T19:02:01Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> Angel of Death? Gabriel is traditionally the chief of the herald angels. He’s the one who told Mary that God was going to knock her up, and he’s traditionally considered to be the one who announced Jesus’ birth to the shepherds. I’ve never seen any indication in the Bible or the surrounding folklore that he has anything to do with death-- If anything, Michael (a warrior angel) would be closer to that.

He’s also the one who dictated the Koran to Muhammad, so maybe that’s where the dick part comes in ?

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