# In our country, we kill people like you. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2002, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178 "2002-11-27T19:21:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/61 "2002-11-28T06:51:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by chula \* > It seems you have not understood the analogy. > > Germans are to Muslims as > Nazis are to violent, extremist Muslims as > a German jerk is to a Muslim jerk Uh . . . 😕 . . . I guess so . . . ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/62 "2002-11-28T07:04:31Z")
What part don’t you get? Not all Germans are Nazis, and not all Muslims are violent extremists. And one person being a jerk is not an indication that he subscribes to a particular ideology. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/63 "2002-11-28T07:07:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by chula \* > What part don’t you get? Your point. ---
**Author:** ![airdisc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@airdisc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/airdisc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/64 "2002-11-28T16:46:58Z")
Chula, I wasn’t trying to justify the woman’s homophobia. I was just saying that we shouldn’t make assumptions about her race or ethnic background based on what country she’s from. How is that “trying to justify homophobia”? ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/65 "2002-11-28T17:09:39Z")
wrt to the OP’s neighbor, I can’t understand why they were allowed to immigrate. As far as I’m concerned if you won’t subscribe to the principles of plurality and tolerance, you shouldn’t be here. Of course there’s always going to be debate about exactly where the limits of this tolerance should be, what the neighbor said borders on madness. ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/66 "2002-11-28T18:02:00Z")
Why do people always refer back to Northern Ireland??? And besides, they have the ability to make peace, or a truce, can you say that, for the chechens, or the palestinians? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/67 "2002-11-28T19:36:18Z")
Yes. After all, Ryan, he Chechens, and even the Palestinians, are, and this might come as a complete shocker to you, are people. They’re all humans. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/68 "2002-11-28T19:37:51Z")
That should be “…the Chechens…” ---
**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/69 "2002-11-28T22:05:06Z")
So are the Irish??? ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/70 "2002-11-28T22:29:44Z")
**airdisc** , sorry for the confusion. That comment wasn’t aimed at you. I was referring to the bigots on this thread who think that her race and religion are relevant. > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by javaman_ > I can’t understand why they were allowed to immigrate. Nice sentiment. Would it help your understanding to know that most Somalis in the U.S. are refugees? ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/71 "2002-11-28T22:54:57Z")
> [@](#): > > As far as I’m concerned if you won’t subscribe to the principles of plurality and tolerance, you shouldn’t be here. I dunno, I can think of a few places where they’d fit right in. ---
**Author:** ![airdisc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e19adc/32.png) [@airdisc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/airdisc)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/72 "2002-11-28T23:41:02Z")
Apology accepted, chula. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2002, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/73 "2002-11-28T23:58:53Z")
> [@](#): > > and in the speeches of its **mainstream leaders** (which hasn’t been the case for at least a couple of hundred years, again AFAIK)? > > It hasn’t? I just cited popular evangelist **Pat Robertson’s** endorsement of the Christian Reconstructionist ideal that would include capital punishment for pagans and homosexuals. \<---- Kimstu Bolding mine… Bwhahahahahahahaha Biggest inslut to SDMB’ers I have ever seen… ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/74 "2002-11-29T00:14:35Z")
Um, huh? Pat Robertson isn’t exactly unknown in this country, nor is he exactly unfollowed. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/75 "2002-11-29T01:15:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by chula \* > **airdisc** , sorry for the confusion. That comment wasn’t aimed at you. I was referring to the bigots on this thread who think that her race and religion are relevant. Well, for my part in turn I’m now unsure if whether that slur is aimed at me. In any case, **chula** , do you regard it as completely irrelevant that in saying “we kill people like you in my country”, she was being _entirely truthful and making a simple statement of fact_? ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/76 "2002-11-29T01:22:21Z")
She also said “If my son was gay, I would kill him”. ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/77 "2002-11-29T01:35:54Z")
I imagine it’s true that homosexuals have been killed in Somalia. They’ve also been killed in the United States. “We kill people like you in my country” would be a truthful statement coming out of the mouth of nearly anyone in the world. That doesn’t explain why she condones such actions. Unless you believe that all Muslims hold the same beliefs on this subject, and apparently some people here do. ---
**Author:** ![Kitfox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f6c823/32.png) [@Kitfox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kitfox)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/78 "2002-11-29T02:03:33Z")
Wow, we publicly stone or behead gays in the US with the consent of our political and religious leaders? Man, I must be completely oblivious not to have noticed this in my 30 years of living here. Is this something y’all do up north? ---
**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/79 "2002-11-29T03:10:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by iampunha \* > **Um, huh? Pat Robertson isn’t exactly unknown in this country, nor is he exactly unfollowed.** However, I would hardly classify him as mainstream. ---
**Author:** ![chula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a4c791/32.png) [@chula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chula)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2002, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178/80 "2002-11-29T03:43:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Kitfox \* > Wow, we publicly stone or behead gays in the US with the consent of our political and religious leaders? I suppose you’re referring to the incident mentioned about some lesbians being sentenced to death in Somalia. (Actually, this story may be false. [See here.](http://www.afrol.com/News2001/som003_lesbians_sentenced2.htm)) You’re comparing apples and oranges. There is no rule of law in Somalia, so courts rulings are completely arbitrary. Homosexuality isn’t even illegal in Somalia, but it is in the United States. If you’re being violently attacked for being gay, I don’t think you’ll care what the extent of the government’s involvement was. In any case, we know that there are homophobes in Somalia - what the hell does that fact have to do with the other 1 billion+ Muslims in the world? It’s offensive that posters are trying to impute the woman’s homophobia to Islam. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-our-country-we-kill-people-like-you/139178.md?page=5)