# Iñ prâísë òf dîåçrïtïcàl märks

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 9, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539 "2004-06-09T22:29:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/1 "2004-06-09T22:29:47Z")

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Yôü kñòw, thé tróúblè wîth ÉÑGLISH ïs thërë åìñ’t ñêårly êñóúgh ÄÇÇÉÑTS!

They make everything much more interesting to read.

¿Don’t you agree?

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**Author:** ![luluBahrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@luluBahrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luluBahrain)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/2 "2004-06-09T22:31:31Z")

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My EYES…they’re bleeeeeeding!

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/3 "2004-06-09T22:40:24Z")

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> [@luluBahrain](#):
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> My EYES…they’re bleeeeeeding!

Ha! Never under estimate the cutting power of a newly forged circumflex!

**â**

Take that!

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**Author:** ![luluBahrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e5b9ba/32.png) [@luluBahrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luluBahrain)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/4 "2004-06-09T22:42:28Z")

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:collapses:

_twitch\_twitch_

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**Author:** ![emekthian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecae2f/32.png) [@emekthian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emekthian)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/5 "2004-06-09T22:47:03Z")

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It’s all about ç-çedilla!

Alt+0231 baby!

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**Author:** ![cher3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cher3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cher3)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/6 "2004-06-09T22:58:35Z")

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> [@emekthian](#):
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> It’s all about ç-çedilla!
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> Alt+0231 baby!

You’re breakin’ my heart.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/7 "2004-06-09T22:59:58Z")

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And always remember: Fear the Ümlaut!!

Ya can’t be mÖtley without it 😃

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**Author:** ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/8 "2004-06-09T23:27:37Z")

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> [@Hal Briston](#):
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> …Ya can’t be mÖtley without it…

Right now, however, you are crÜe-less. 😃

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**Author:** ![Colophon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@Colophon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colophon)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/9 "2004-06-09T23:45:00Z")

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I’d like to campaign for the introduction of a font that includes an “n” with umlauts, for Spinal Tap fans everywhere.

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**Author:** ![Yamirskoonir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/c0e974/32.png) [@Yamirskoonir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yamirskoonir)\
**Post date:** [June 9, 2004, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/10 "2004-06-09T23:50:11Z")

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Diacritics suck if you’re a catalog librarian - in order that all systems read all characters uniformly, diacritics are each given their own special code.

So the title “Innocent Eréndira” by Gabriel Marcía Márquez looks like this in a library MARC record:

title: Innocent Er{226}endira  
and  
author: Garc{226}ia M{226}arquez, Gabriel

More complicated tables can be found [here.](http://www.loc.gov/marc/specifications/specchartables.html)  
But that OP _was_ fun to read. Reminds me of the pretty fractals. 😃

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**Author:** ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/11 "2004-06-10T00:04:05Z")

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> [@Yamirskoonir](#):
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> …But that OP _was_ fun to read. Reminds me of the pretty fractals. 😃

Reminds me of too much Nyquil.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/12 "2004-06-10T00:14:09Z")

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> [@screech-owl](#):
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> Right now, however, you are crÜe-less. 😃

What a crÜde thing to say!

btw, why is there an ä, ë, ï, and ö, but no lower case Ü?? 😕

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**Author:** ![Snooooopy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Snooooopy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snooooopy)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/13 "2004-06-10T00:32:25Z")

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> [@Hal Briston](#):
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> btw, why is there an ä, ë, ï, and ö, but no lower case Ü?? 😕

Whaddaya mean, müthafücka? The OP üses one (which I cüt and pasted for my post).

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**Author:** ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/14 "2004-06-10T01:03:58Z")

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Alt + 0250 = ü

Worked für me.

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**Author:** ![screech-owl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@screech-owl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/screech-owl)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/15 "2004-06-10T01:06:31Z")

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> [@screech-owl](#):
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> Alt + 0250 = ü
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> Worked für me.

Stüpid függin Nyqüil fingürs!!!  
ALT + 025 **2** = ü

btw, ALT + 0250 = ú, FTR.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/16 "2004-06-10T01:34:21Z")

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Ahh…there lies the problem…the ascii table I was looking at only went up to Alt-255. Now then…let’s try this again:

What a crüde thing to say! 😛

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/17 "2004-06-10T10:28:03Z")

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The tröble is that I’m never entirely sure that a google search will find them if I just type ordinary characters…

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**Author:** ![Spiny\_Norman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Spiny\_Norman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiny_Norman)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/18 "2004-06-10T10:31:17Z")

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- how else will you spell _æblegrød_ ?

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**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/19 "2004-06-10T11:17:55Z")

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> [@screech-owl](#):
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> Stüpid függin Nyqüil fingürs!!!  
> ALT + 025 **2** = ü
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> btw, ALT + 0250 = ú, FTR.

It’s even easier if you use the decimal ASCII code instead: ALT + 129 = ü. Saves you one extra keystroke. Of course, this only works for the first 255 characters in the ASCII characer set. One advantage though, is that it should work with most codepages, while ALT + 0250 might display something else if you use a wierd codepage like IBM 855 (Cyrillic).

Oh, oh. I just checked and I’m wrong. IBM 855 only has the first 127 characters mapped to ASCII, so ALT + 129 actually maps to “CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER DJE” so forget what I just said. :smack:

You do still save one keystroke though!

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**Author:** ![AngelicGemma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/439d5e/32.png) [@AngelicGemma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelicGemma)\
**Post date:** [June 10, 2004, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-diacritical-marks/249539/20 "2004-06-10T11:20:24Z")

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Ohhhhh pretty!

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