# In Praise of the Obamessiah, and other developments of the Sally Yates testimony

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 9, 2017, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179 "2017-05-09T03:55:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/61 "2017-05-09T21:59:30Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I admit I have not been paying super close attention to this particular clusterfuck. But… Wha?! Was that expected?
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> [What Happened GIF by Warner Archive - Find & Share on GIPHY](https://giphy.com/embed/l2JIk0sWj9sUvbvCU)

No. This was not expected. Not in anything I’ve read. Everything I’ve read on the topic has assumed that if he tried to fire Comey that would be the end of it for him.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/62 "2017-05-09T22:01:20Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Holy crap is right.  
> Session’s idea. Wonder what he’s hiding?

Allow you to refer you to my previous work:

[\*\* Is Donald Trump a Putin patsy?\*\*](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=799418)

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/63 "2017-05-09T22:04:10Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> I admit I have not been paying super close attention to this particular clusterfuck. But… Wha?! Was that expected?
> 
> [What Happened GIF by Warner Archive - Find & Share on GIPHY](https://giphy.com/embed/l2JIk0sWj9sUvbvCU)

Yeah, this is, for once, genuinely, “A Situation” for Wolf Blitzer’s Room. This is “Nixon fires the special prosecutor” big.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/64 "2017-05-09T22:18:05Z")

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Holy blazing fuck! The trajectory of the shit has intersected the locus of the fan!

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/65 "2017-05-09T22:21:52Z")

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Like I said in the other thread, Comey is no longer useful to Trump. So, bye bye.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/66 "2017-05-09T22:37:30Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Yeah, this is, for once, genuinely, “A Situation” for Wolf Blitzer’s Room. This is “Nixon fires the special prosecutor” big.

It needs to be “Nixon resigns” big.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/67 "2017-05-09T22:45:55Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> It needs to be “Nixon resigns” big.

Inch by inch. Step by step.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/68 "2017-05-09T23:20:07Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> That’s a certified letter. CERTIFIED by the federal government! You can’t argue with that. The investigation is over.

Peculiar thing about this document: it was never notarized.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/69 "2017-05-09T23:27:09Z")

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Just gonna add this here. **DSYoungEsq** can go fuck a cactus for his transparent defense of Trump on this in the Elections thread. The main reason I still say Trump supporters are evil is that they constantly make excuses for Trump’s bad actions. And this front asshole wants to join them with an argument even a defense attorney would know wouldn’t actually fly.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/70 "2017-05-09T23:29:28Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Peculiar thing about this document: it was never notarized.

Wow, that takes me back.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/71 "2017-05-09T23:30:07Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Just gonna add this here. **DSYoungEsq** can go fuck a cactus for his transparent defense of Trump on this in the Elections thread. The main reason I still say Trump supporters are evil is that they constantly make excuses for Trump’s bad actions. And this front asshole wants to join them with an argument even a defense attorney would know wouldn’t actually fly.

Jason “Tiny Face” Miller is on CNN defending the Short Fingered Shitstain.

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**Author:** ![Beren\_Erchamion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/90ced4/32.png) [@Beren\_Erchamion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beren_Erchamion)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/72 "2017-05-09T23:38:57Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> It needs to be “Nixon resigns” big.

Nixon resigned because Congressional Republicans pressured him to.

Congressional Republicans pressured him to because they were the minority party in both houses of Congress, which means they definitely couldn’t stop an impeachment in the House, and it would only require a few defectors to render them unable to stop a conviction in the Senate (since that requires 2/3, rather than a simple majority).

So given the choice between resignation on the one hand, and definite impeachment and quite possible (though probably less than 50% chance) conviction on the other, they decided to go with the least bad option and pressure Nixon to get out.

No such pressure exists on Congressional Republicans now.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2017, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/73 "2017-05-09T23:42:47Z")

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As some said - “inch by inch”. It’s too soon for hope, but maybe not too soon for an evil smirk.

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**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/74 "2017-05-10T00:31:59Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Peculiar thing about this document: it was never notarized.

Ha! I love it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/75 "2017-05-10T00:38:47Z")

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Ivanka is a notary. And she _totally_ read it!

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/76 "2017-05-10T00:54:36Z")

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Countdown to President Pence…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/77 "2017-05-10T01:06:48Z")

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Thank you, Mister Sunshine.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/78 "2017-05-10T02:38:30Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Countdown to President Pence…

I’m sure Pence has had his VP in mind for some time now. Just in case Pence doesn’t come out smelling like a rose, that VP might be the next Gerald Ford. Pardon all 'round!

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/79 "2017-05-10T03:17:56Z")

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Pence was in charge of the transition team that would have vetted Michael Flynn and who apparently didn’t notice everyone playing footsie with Sergey Kislyak. He’s in this, too.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-praise-of-the-obamessiah-and-other-developments-of-the-sally-yates-testimony/786179/80 "2017-05-10T03:20:29Z")

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> [@Merneith](#):
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> Pence was in charge of the transition team that would have vetted Michael Flynn and who apparently didn’t notice everyone playing footsie with Sergey Kislyak. He’s in this, too.

Good point. Who’s next in succession, Mitch McConnell?

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