# In re: Atheists v. Christians debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 19, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153 "2015-10-19T17:19:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/181 "2015-10-23T12:32:20Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I wonder how the “debate” went.

The atheists won 2 falls out of 3 but they brought in a ringer who wrestled in college.

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/182 "2015-10-23T13:20:48Z")

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/183 "2015-10-23T14:53:01Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Remember, however, that in the OP I wanted to wait until enough interest had been generated before posting any details–otherwise there wouldn’t be much point to it–right?

I’m curious, what form did you think that interest would take? You wrote “If the response to this statement warrants I will add details.” as the second sentence. I am genuinely curious what kind of people you were trying to target and how you thought your target audience would respond?

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**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/184 "2015-10-23T14:55:38Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Huh. My translator renders that as “do not trust farmers”

I never said it was _accurate_! You’re right not to trust farmers, I am one and I often make bad latin-based puns. And I have pigs.

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**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/185 "2015-10-23T15:01:54Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Mr./Ms. Moderator, if you’ve been reading others’ comments in this thread you would know that, by comparison, others’ remarks are far more vile and belligerent than mine are.  
> So unless there IS a double standard, as I suggested upthread, you may want to admonish the others who had spewed verbal garbage at me. Granted this is The BBQ Pit, but there is supposed to be a thin line even here between what will be tolerated and what will not, and I insist that I am not the only one who could be accused of crossing it.

First, I love the “Mr./Ms. Moderator” thing, pretending (?) not to know if **Miller** is male or female adds that certain something that one only finds in a **dougie\_monty** post. Following that with continued complete incomprehension of the basic rules of the board is just pure comedy gold.

That is why **dougie\_monty** is my favorite character on this message board, someday I’d love to meet the actor who portrays him so skilfully.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/186 "2015-10-23T15:29:10Z")

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> [@August\_West](#):
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> First, I love the “Mr./Ms. Moderator” thing, pretending (?) not to know if **Miller** is male or female adds that certain something that one only finds in a **dougie\_monty** post. Following that with continued complete incomprehension of the basic rules of the board is just pure comedy gold.
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> That is why **dougie\_monty** is my favorite character on this message board, someday I’d love to meet the actor who portrays him so skilfully.

Pretending? No. Before I started this thread I had not visited The BBQ Pit for more than a year, so I knew nothing about the moderators.  
There is no “actor” involved. What you see is the genuine article, in a manner of speaking.

Well, I have read comments posted here about the debate. A ringer, no less. I might have known.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/187 "2015-10-23T15:30:51Z")

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> [@August\_West](#):
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> That is why **dougie\_monty** is my favorite character on this message board, someday I’d love to meet the actor who portrays him so skilfully.

I would pay to watch **dougie** and **starving artist** wrestle a few rounds.

I’m picturing a cross between [this](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4f7FmAW7158/UdMI3tSASJI/AAAAAAAAGok/M2k55ykZ6eQ/s639/Wrestlers+1900-1940+%281%29.jpeg) and [this.](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/31/b1/e0/31b1e03dfd13de61e3dd2e47bb082091.jpg)

All money raised would go to charity.😃

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/188 "2015-10-23T15:30:59Z")

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> [@August\_West](#):
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> First, I love the “Mr./Ms. Moderator” thing, pretending (?) not to know if **Miller** is male or female adds that certain something that one only finds in a **dougie\_monty** post. Following that with continued complete incomprehension of the basic rules of the board is just pure comedy gold.
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> That is why **dougie\_monty** is my favorite character on this message board, someday I’d love to meet the actor who portrays him so skilfully.

I’m absolutely convinced it’s not a gag.

**dougie** honestly, literally, does not know what forum is what, what the operating rules are, or who the administrators and mod are.

I made a reference to disliking tubas a while back. I was being deliberately oblique, because that floats my boat. **dm** didn’t follow it, and I should have know he wouldn’t. Had I explained, it would have gone something like this:

**andros** : The long-term SDMB site administrator goes by the handle **TubaDiva**. She’s been around since the AOL days.

**dougie-monty** : Oh, I didn’t know that.

(Honestly, he might also add “What does SDMB stand for?”)  
And the kicker is that _I think he’s sincere_. Maybe he’s got me fooled, but 16 years is a looooooong long con.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/189 "2015-10-23T15:32:35Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> And the kicker is that _I think he’s sincere_. Maybe he’s got me fooled, but 16 years is a looooooong long con.

He learned it from the J-Dubs.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/190 "2015-10-23T15:51:24Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Well, I have read comments posted here about the debate. A ringer, no less. I might have known.

Is it true that when you took your SATs in school, you copied your classmate’s name onto your own test sheet?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/191 "2015-10-23T16:36:20Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is it true that when you took your SATs in school, you copied your classmate’s name onto your own test sheet?

You mean his name isn’t **dougie\_monty**?

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/192 "2015-10-23T16:47:01Z")

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> [@andros](#):
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> I’m absolutely convinced it’s not a gag.
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> **dougie** honestly, literally, does not know what forum is what, what the operating rules are, or who the administrators and mod are.
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> I made a reference to disliking tubas a while back. I was being deliberately oblique, because that floats my boat. **dm** didn’t follow it, and I should have know he wouldn’t. Had I explained, it would have gone something like this:
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> **andros** : The long-term SDMB site administrator goes by the handle **TubaDiva**. She’s been around since the AOL days.
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> **dougie-monty** : Oh, I didn’t know that.
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> (Honestly, he might also add “What does SDMB stand for?”)  
> And the kicker is that _I think he’s sincere_. Maybe he’s got me fooled, but 16 years is a looooooong long con.

FYI, I have known who TubaDiva is since 1999.  
And this is what you meant by “tubas”?  
Give me a break! :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/193 "2015-10-23T16:48:22Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> He learned it from the J-Dubs.

Don’t feel bad about that. I’m sure you couldn’t learn sincerity from anybody.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/194 "2015-10-23T16:50:19Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Don’t feel bad about that. I’m sure you couldn’t learn sincerity from anybody.

Whereas you learned the value of faking it almost immediately, right?

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/195 "2015-10-23T16:50:45Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Is it true that when you took your SATs in school, you copied your classmate’s name onto your own test sheet?

Every senior at Redondo High that year took the test in Third Period. I was in Study Hall that period. I knew hardly anyone else’s name in that class.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/196 "2015-10-23T16:52:34Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Whereas you learned the value of faking it almost immediately, right?

I never learned to fake anything, but I’m glad to meet an expert ( takes one to know one, or something like that). 😛

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/197 "2015-10-23T16:55:48Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Don’t feel bad about that. I’m sure you couldn’t learn sincerity from anybody.

I was referring to the loooooooong con, you suspension bridge elbow.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/198 "2015-10-23T17:02:19Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> I never learned to fake anything

That’s not what Maureen says!

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/199 "2015-10-23T17:08:50Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Every senior at Redondo High that year took the test in Third Period. I was in Study Hall that period. I knew hardly anyone else’s name in that class.

Nobody gives a rat’s ass. Seriously.  
Got anything to say about your precious debate, now that it is over and done with?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/200 "2015-10-23T17:11:10Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> FYI, I have known who TubaDiva is since 1999.

Fair enough. My apologies.

I assumed, given your recurrent seeming amazement at the nature and rules of the BBQ Pit (and the SDMB as a whole), that you would be unaware of, say, **TubaDiva** ’s identity. That was a poor, and admittedly unkind, assumption.

I remain perplexed, however, by your apparent failure to grok the nature of the Pit, or the application of board rules. I understand the latter can be arbitrary at times, perhaps even obscure…but this ain’t rocket science.

> [@](#):
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> And this is what you meant by “tubas”?  
> Give me a break! :rolleyes:

Like I said, I groove on oblique. Even if no one else caught my _History of the World_ reference, it made _me_ happy.

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