# In re: Atheists v. Christians debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 19, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153 "2015-10-19T17:19:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/221 "2015-10-24T04:29:55Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I would pay to watch **dougie** and **starving artist** wrestle a few rounds.
> 
> I’m picturing a cross between [this](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4f7FmAW7158/UdMI3tSASJI/AAAAAAAAGok/M2k55ykZ6eQ/s639/Wrestlers+1900-1940+%281%29.jpeg) and [this.](https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/31/b1/e0/31b1e03dfd13de61e3dd2e47bb082091.jpg)
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> All money raised would go to charity.😃

I’m not sure that my eyes can handle the two of them actually wrestling. A debate now. I’d throw in to support a worthy charity in order to watch the two of them debate almost anything.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/222 "2015-10-24T04:31:40Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> [Spam musubi](http://imgur.com/GDg0Dwp) is awesome. I had some today.

Fine. Rub it in. ::sulks in spam musubi desert::

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/223 "2015-10-24T04:38:28Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> True. But we are talking about Spam here, right? The rubbery canned alleged-meat popular in the Pacific? The stuff that inspired a Monty Python sketch?
> 
> I mean, I’ll try anything once. I’ve eaten black pudding, haggis and durian. But Spam, really?

Spam Musubi, you philistine. A gift of the Gods.

Regular spam is pretty tasty when fried. You don’t just eat it straight out of the can, any more than you would eat a canned ham straight out of the can. It has to be properly cooked. I think that a lot of the distaste for spam is because of this confusion.

Best uses for Spam:

1. Musubi, eaten while still hot so the nori is warm and crisp.
2. Sliced fairly thin, then cut up and fried along with (into) scrambled eggs. You eat it for breakfast, with rice.
3. Sliced thicker, then fried and served alongside eggs, but separate, like a side of ham (which it pretty much is). Again, rice is the traditional side dish, but hash browns are ok too. Hash browns _and_ rice is a bit too much starch for most folks.

I generally Don’t Eat Pork, for ethical reasons, but I am weak and have exceptions - this is the biggest one.

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**Author:** ![Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maggie_the_Ocelot)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/224 "2015-10-24T04:42:33Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> Fine. Rub it in. ::sulks in spam musubi desert::

_pats on the head_ There, there. Come on down south and Husband and I will take you to Gardena Bowl.

Poor dear.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/225 "2015-10-24T04:46:10Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> I’m not sure that my eyes can handle the two of them actually wrestling. A debate now. I’d throw in to support a worthy charity in order to watch the two of them debate almost anything.

Save your money. You’d have more luck arranging a one-on-one debate between Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump

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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/226 "2015-10-24T05:05:40Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> [Spam musubi](http://imgur.com/GDg0Dwp) is awesome. I had some today.

> [@ddsun](#):
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> Fine. Rub it in. ::sulks in spam musubi desert::

> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> Spam Musubi, you philistine. A gift of the Gods.
> 
> Regular spam is pretty tasty when fried. You don’t just eat it straight out of the can, any more than you would eat a canned ham straight out of the can. It has to be properly cooked. I think that a lot of the distaste for spam is because of this confusion.
> 
> Best uses for Spam:
> 
> 1. Musubi, eaten while still hot so the nori is warm and crisp.
> 2. Sliced fairly thin, then cut up and fried along with (into) scrambled eggs. You eat it for breakfast, with rice.
> 3. Sliced thicker, then fried and serve alongside eggs, but separate, like a side of ham (which it pretty much is). Again, rice is the traditional side dish, but hash browns are ok too. Hash browns _and_ rice is a bit too much starch for most folks.
> 
> I generally Don’t Eat Pork, for ethical reasons, but I am weak and have exceptions - this is the biggest one.

Good god, it’s a movement. This is some sort of left-coast aberration, like kale ice cream and Rajneeshis, right?

But I promise, if I ever get the opportunity to do so, I will try Spam musubi. And if it’s as good as y’all say, I will happily eat crow. (After all, I will have just eaten Spam, so how much worse could crow be?)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/227 "2015-10-24T07:03:21Z")

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> [@ddsun](#):
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> I’m not sure that my eyes can handle the two of them actually wrestling. A debate now. I’d throw in to support a worthy charity in order to watch the two of them debate almost anything.

> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Save your money. You’d have more luck arranging a one-on-one debate between Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump

He’s got a point, **ddsun**. On most topics concerning anything we might be interested in observing a debate about, neither of those two is likely to take issue with the other’s positions.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/228 "2015-10-24T07:07:21Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> Good god, it’s a movement. This is some sort of left-coast aberration, like kale ice cream and Rajneeshis, right?
> 
> But I promise, if I ever get the opportunity to do so, I will try Spam musubi. And if it’s as good as y’all say, I will happily eat crow. (After all, I will have just eaten Spam, so how much worse could crow be?)

It’s actually a Hawaii thing, I think.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/229 "2015-10-24T07:15:57Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> I’m curious, what form did you think that interest would take? You wrote “If the response to this statement warrants I will add details.” as the second sentence. I am genuinely curious what kind of people you were trying to target and how you thought your target audience would respond?

I’m still really curious how a successful version of this thread would have gone, according to the imagination of **dougie\_monty** , but I guess he’d rather revive a two year old thread on making keyboards sound like a typewriter.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/230 "2015-10-24T14:02:05Z")

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> [@naita](#):
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> I’m still really curious how a successful version of this thread would have gone, according to the imagination of **dougie\_monty** , but I guess he’d rather revive a two year old thread on making keyboards sound like a typewriter.

Hmmm, maybe something like this:

There’s a lot of godless communists here, and they argue all the time, so I’ll post an Atheist vs Christian debate for them. They’ll watch it and see the error of their ways for sure. Better do it in the Pit, because they’re all rapscallions and whippersnappers who say mean things about me whenever I try to save their souls. My masters taught me to ignore the skepticism of these heathens and focus on imposing the cult values. If I keep at it hard enough, they’ll turn into nice little Christian drones like me and I’ll earn my place among the 144,000 in Heaven. Too bad they won’t let me PM the entire membership list with Watchtower PDFs. Wait. What’s this? They’re questioning me? How dare they demand I explain my actions! That does it! No more Mr. Nice Guy!

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/231 "2015-10-24T15:06:21Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Hmmm, maybe something like this:
> 
> There’s a lot of godless communists here, and they argue all the time, so I’ll post an Atheist vs Christian debate for them. They’ll watch it and see the error of their ways for sure. Better do it in the Pit, because they’re all rapscallions and whippersnappers who say mean things about me whenever I try to save their souls. My masters taught me to ignore the skepticism of these heathens and focus on imposing the cult values. If I keep at it hard enough, they’ll turn into nice little Christian drones like me and I’ll earn my place among the 144,000 in Heaven. Too bad they won’t let me PM the entire membership list with Watchtower PDFs. Wait. What’s this? They’re questioning me? How dare they demand I explain my actions! That does it! No more Mr. Nice Guy!

That paragraph sounds as though it came straight out of your opium pipe. Or maybe was it pink elephants?  
When it comes to putting words in my mouth you are a splendid failure. But that’s consistency for you.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/232 "2015-10-24T15:22:04Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> That paragraph sounds as though it came straight out of your opium pipe. Or maybe was it pink elephants?  
> When it comes to putting words in my mouth you are a splendid failure. But that’s consistency for you.

I think the hardest character to write for is a moron. Because non-morons don’t think the same way.

So of course most people are going to have trouble putting words in your mouth.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/233 "2015-10-24T15:26:47Z")

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I didn’t think it would take this long to edit the video.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/234 "2015-10-24T15:32:47Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> That paragraph sounds as though it came straight out of your opium pipe.

Mmmmmmm. Opium.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/235 "2015-10-24T15:34:58Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Mmmmmmm. Opium.

[Lowers monocle]Tell me Dougie, how long have you been _chasing the dragon_?"

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/236 "2015-10-24T16:07:29Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> F All the same, I believe I had a right to resent being called “stupid,” and that was what provoked me.  
> .

You know who truly resent being called stupid? Stupid people.

Usually, you can measure how stupid a person truly is by how quickly they resort to physical threats, or how quickly they bring out mis-spelled latin quotes or if they attempt to impress people with their vast collection of books and things they ‘think’ make them appear smarter.

That puts you right at the top of the ‘massively stupid’ scale - its truly a wonder you manage to feed yourself.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/237 "2015-10-24T16:25:20Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> You know who truly resent being called stupid? Stupid people.
> 
> Usually, you can measure how stupid a person truly is by how quickly they resort to physical threats, or how quickly they bring out mis-spelled latin quotes or if they attempt to impress people with their vast collection of books and things they ‘think’ make them appear smarter.
> 
> That puts you right at the top of the ‘massively stupid’ scale - its truly a wonder you manage to feed yourself.

I’m beginning to think that the only reason this thread has been prolonged is that you and your friends have nothing better to do than heckle, and pervert my plain - spoken answers.  
My Latin quote–all right, I don’t have a copy of Vergil’s works–IS correctly spelled, according to my source.  
YOU were the ones who made the stupid remark that all I have to read at home is Watchtower literature, so I decided presenting some facts was necessary to counter your made-up inanity.  
The moderator has already chastised me thoroughly on the “physical threat” issue, so I don’t need you shooting off your mouth at me on the subject any more. Got me?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/238 "2015-10-24T16:38:07Z")

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Did you attend the “debate” or didn’t you?

Do you have anything to report?

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/239 "2015-10-24T16:43:07Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> I’m beginning to think that the only reason this thread has been prolonged is that you and your friends have nothing better to do than heckle, and pervert my plain - spoken answers.  
> My Latin quote–all right, I don’t have a copy of Vergil’s works–IS correctly spelled, according to my source.  
> YOU were the ones who made the stupid remark that all I have to read at home is Watchtower literature, so I decided presenting some facts was necessary to counter your made-up inanity.  
> The moderator has already chastised me thoroughly on the “physical threat” issue, so I don’t need you shooting off your mouth at me on the subject any more. Got me?

no one ‘gets’ you dougie, no one.

That you read it as ‘chastising you’ simply helps to demonstrate how monumentally stupid you are - This thread has been prolonged by you - in your multiple attempts to post ‘witty responses’, so clearly you’re getting some form of enjoyment from the thread staying around. Perhaps the ‘abuse’ helps to fuel the beliefs that you hold so dear.

and a rather fascinating SPAM recipe - so some good has come from it.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/240 "2015-10-24T16:45:02Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> My Latin quote–all right, I don’t have a copy of Vergil’s works–IS correctly spelled, according to my source.

“Virgil.”

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