# In re: Atheists v. Christians debate **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 19, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153 "2015-10-19T17:19:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/121 "2015-10-22T14:13:59Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > You follow a stupid religion, so many of your actions are stupid, simply because you toe the line. > > Not being able to see your religion for the farce it is, isn’t stupid in and of itself. You were brainwashed from a young age, I assume. It’s hard to shake it off if devotion comes before reason. > > So I’d say a person can be smart, but be functionally stupid because of adherence to a backwards moral code, and the delusions that come from being indoctrinated from early childhood into a shitty system. Considering the remarks you have made–which are certainly representative of the ones I have been treated to consistently --I conclude that this board is using a double standard. I get replies that are far worse than things I have posted, which have elicited warnings from the moderators and even resulted in me being barred from posting for two weeks. But a remark such as the one I am quoting will be ignored by the moderator. Why this should be I don’t know, unless the moderators are operating under a painfully obvious bias. Two weeks? Eh! I once absented myself from the SDMB for more than a month out of disgust. I am no stranger to examples of boorish, impudent behavior, mostly from my older brother, but also from others my own age until I finished school. I needed no further convincing that I was right to remain a loner. I am not impressed with the lot of you: You have merely painted the lily as far as I am concerned. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/122 "2015-10-22T14:22:56Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > But a remark such as the one I am quoting will be ignored by the moderator. > Why this should be I don’t know It’s been explained repeatedly. The Board has different areas for different types of communication. Here, in the BBQ Pit, “flaming” is allowed. That includes personal insults. Seriously, man. It’s been 16 years. > [@](#): > > Two weeks? Eh! I once absented myself from the SDMB for more than a month out of disgust. Piffle. I left for two years simply because I find tubas unpleasant. Up your game. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/123 "2015-10-22T14:46:54Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > I am not impressed with the lot of you: You have merely painted the lily as far as I am concerned. You’re talking about everyone but me, right? ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/124 "2015-10-22T14:50:41Z")
Your point from the first paragraph is well taken, but I have never posted in The BBQ Pit for the specific purpose of spewing “personal insults.” As for Paragraph No. 2: Tubas? Can you make it a little plainer, please?😕 ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/125 "2015-10-22T14:52:18Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > You’re talking about everyone but me, right? A word to the wise: Don’t be too optimistic. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/126 "2015-10-22T15:00:00Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Considering the remarks you have made–which are certainly representative of the ones I have been treated to consistently --I conclude that this board is using a double standard. > I get replies that are far worse than things I have posted, which have elicited warnings from the moderators and even resulted in me being barred from posting for two weeks. > But a remark such as the one I am quoting will be ignored by the moderator. > Why this should be I don’t know, unless the moderators are operating under a painfully obvious bias. > > Two weeks? Eh! I once absented myself from the SDMB for more than a month out of disgust. I am no stranger to examples of boorish, impudent behavior, mostly from my older brother, but also from others my own age until I finished school. I needed no further convincing that I was right to remain a loner. > I am not impressed with the lot of you: You have merely painted the lily as far as I am concerned. You are posting in the Pit. Whether you are here for the flames or not, they are allowed, And you started this thread here. In the Pit. If you are attacked elsewhere on the board, use the report button. But it seems to me that you often lash out in anger when such a response isn’t warranted. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/127 "2015-10-22T15:02:56Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > As for Paragraph No. 2: Tubas? Can you make it a little plainer, please?😕 Yeesh. :smack: Before he answers, please tell us how you would have been inclined to pronounce Miscavige before this thread existed? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/128 "2015-10-22T15:07:47Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > A word to the wise: Don’t be too optimistic. [QUOTE=Magic 8 Ball] Reply hazy try again [/QUOTE] ETA: I am flattered to know that you recognize my wisdom. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/129 "2015-10-22T15:15:55Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Considering the remarks you have made–which are certainly representative of the ones I have been treated to consistently --I conclude that this board is using a double standard. > I get replies that are far worse than things I have posted, which have elicited warnings from the moderators and even resulted in me being barred from posting for two weeks. > But a remark such as the one I am quoting will be ignored by the moderator. > Why this should be I don’t know, unless the moderators are operating under a painfully obvious bias. > > Two weeks? Eh! I once absented myself from the SDMB for more than a month out of disgust. I am no stranger to examples of boorish, impudent behavior, mostly from my older brother, but also from others my own age until I finished school. I needed no further convincing that I was right to remain a loner. > I am not impressed with the lot of you: You have merely painted the lily as far as I am concerned. If you had half a brain - you would quickly realize - a) you were moderated for your comments and repeated comments in GD - where that type of thing is not allowed - they actually give you a very long leash - hell, you were moderated and warned multiple times in a single thread, and you got mearly a 2 week ‘suspension’ - so the moderation on this board goes out of its ways to excuse your pointless ramblings. Well, not entirely pointless - they are pretty fucking hilarious most of the time. (the irony is you’re trying to be serious) b) you’re currently in the pit - where calling you ‘stupid’ is, well, pretty tame, and likely to be seen as a compliment in this case and an insult to the stupid people in the world. So - yeah - you’re a special kind of stupid to be sure - I actually feel sorry for you in one sense and am constantly amazed that you manage to still be able to type. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/130 "2015-10-22T16:17:39Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > Don’t do it, **Knowed Out**! It’s a trap! He’s gonna hit you with 55 years of unread copies of _The Watchtower_! hee hee hee! 😃 To think I was actually taking his side… I can see why he thought the Pit was appropriate for an Atheist vs Christian debate, but he got more backlash than he bargained for. JWs are trained to deal with skepticism though, by burying it with overzealous faith-based hubris. If they consider any secular way of thought, they become disfellowshipped and don’t get to be one of the 144,000 in Heaven (established 1914). Sorry, 144,001nth best Christians and beyond. No place for you here. ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/131 "2015-10-22T16:28:40Z")
You are very much mistaken if you expect me to roll over and play dead (let alone BE dead) after reading your most recent post. You may have noticed, if you bothered to read my response to Andros, that, given the unique parameters of The BBQ Pit, I don’t cast about for “personal insults.” From reading your judgmental responses to my posts I sense that you REVEL in such insults, such as “shilling” and “stupid,” for which no solid foundation was laid. There is no question that I have misgivings about posting this thread in the first place, but, then, I didn’t make the announcement about the Nye-Ham debate. ---
**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/132 "2015-10-22T16:36:17Z")
He’s just playing a character, right? Nobody is that dense. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/133 "2015-10-22T16:56:15Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Considering the remarks you have made–which are certainly representative of the ones I have been treated to consistently --I conclude that this board is using a double standard. As others have noted, you’re in the pit, moron. > [@](#): > > I get replies that are far worse than things I have posted, which have elicited warnings from the moderators and even resulted in me being barred from posting for two weeks. I’m guessing you weren’t in the pit, moron. > [@](#): > > But a remark such as the one I am quoting will be ignored by the moderator. > Why this should be I don’t know, unless the moderators are operating under a painfully obvious bias. Why should my post be moderated? Aside from that it was in the pit, I kindly assumed that the stupidity you constantly show, is due not to physical defect in your brain, but the unfortunate circumstance of being brought up in a shitty cult. That’s actually being nice to you! > [@](#): > > Two weeks? Eh! I once absented myself from the SDMB for more than a month out of disgust. I am no stranger to examples of boorish, impudent behavior, mostly from my older brother, but also from others my own age until I finished school. I needed no further convincing that I was right to remain a loner. > I am not impressed with the lot of you: You have merely painted the lily as far as I am concerned. You’d probably be happier if you embraced reason. \<3 ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/134 "2015-10-22T16:57:54Z")
I want an explanation. Or do you automatically assume that of anything I write, as the average bigot would? ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/135 "2015-10-22T16:59:19Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > As others have noted, you’re in the pit, moron. > > I’m guessing you weren’t in the pit, moron. > > Why should my post be moderated? Aside from that it was in the pit, I kindly assumed that the stupidity you constantly show, is due not to physical defect in your brain, but the unfortunate circumstance of being brought up in a shitty cult. That’s actually being nice to you! > > You’d probably be happier if you embraced reason. \<3 You are the least reasonable assemblage of characters I have encountered. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/136 "2015-10-22T17:03:00Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > You are the least reasonable assemblage of characters I have encountered. Did your Big-Daddy in the sky tell you to say that? Or was it his hippy Son with all the piercings? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/137 "2015-10-22T17:27:55Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > hee hee hee! 😃 > > To think I was actually taking his side… > > I can see why he thought the Pit was appropriate for an Atheist vs Christian debate, but he got more backlash than he bargained for. JWs are trained to deal with skepticism though, by burying it with overzealous faith-based hubris.\*\* If they consider any secular way of thought, they become disfellowshipped and don’t get to be one of the 144,000 in Heaven (established 1914).\*\* Sorry, 144,001nth best Christians and beyond. No place for you here. As I understand it, the list of the 144,000 have already been established. No cutting in line for latecomers. All the rest get a [Stepford](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://assets.jw.org/assets/m/bh/bh.art/1102005133_univ_cnt_2_xl.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/gods-purpose-earth-mankind/&h=1425&w=900&tbnid=oknM7tQVbYnWOM:&docid=Ta213se8Ces3JM&ei=SBwpVsPtEsrgoASPyq4o&tbm=isch&ved=0CCQQMygHMAdqFQoTCMOxud7M1sgCFUowiAodD6ULBQ)style Earthly Paradise, complete with [khakis and skirts](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://assets.jw.org/assets/m/w06/20060715/w06_20060715.art/2006521_univ_cnt_2_lg.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20060715/gods-kingdom-is-superior/&h=405&w=639&tbnid=S5nP9vz4LAJVlM:&docid=i6lmJF1zscUAOM&ei=SBwpVsPtEsrgoASPyq4o&tbm=isch&ved=0CCUQMygIMAhqFQoTCMOxud7M1sgCFUowiAodD6ULBQ). ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/138 "2015-10-22T17:57:24Z")
> [@BubbaDog](#): > > He’s just playing a character, right? > Nobody is that dense. its his density… ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/139 "2015-10-22T18:01:49Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Did your Big-Daddy in the sky tell you to say that? > > Or was it his hippy Son with all the piercings? I come up with these things on my own, tunnel mouth. And if I wanted to muster clever remarks and approached you, I’d be wasting my time for sure. This is something YOU know all about. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/140 "2015-10-22T18:01:50Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > You are very much mistaken if you expect me to roll over and play dead (let alone BE dead) after reading your most recent post. > You may have noticed, if you bothered to read my response to Andros, that, given the unique parameters of The BBQ Pit, I don’t cast about for “personal insults.” From reading your judgmental responses to my posts I sense that you REVEL in such insults, such as “shilling” and “stupid,” for which no solid foundation was laid. > There is no question that I have misgivings about posting this thread in the first place, but, then, I didn’t make the announcement about the Nye-Ham debate. No one expects much of you dougie\_monty, least of all me. You just continue in making moronic posts - as you are uniquely able to do with such veracity - we’ll happily continue pointing them out. Its for this very reason that I consider you a troll - you are either really this dense/stupid or you just really like the reactions you get. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153.md?page=8)