# In re: Atheists v. Christians debate

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 19, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153 "2015-10-19T17:19:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/161 "2015-10-22T22:55:25Z")

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> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> I pimped my favorite in post 112. Also The Local Place for more Hawaiian food\*, but mostly for their amazing pastries - Husband and I fight over their walnut rolls, I adore their Banana Supreme, and the Dobash cake is a moist chocolatey thing of joy. They’re a quick-service version of the King’s Hawaiian restaurant, so of course the baked goods are superb. Seriously, it’s a coin toss between their pastries and Portos’, they’re that good.
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> Oh! And Josie’s Taco Stand advertises the best chicken tacos in town, and they do not disappoint.  
> \*Though avoid their spam musubi, it’s just disappointing.

A dish made with Spam is disappointing? I am shocked.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/162 "2015-10-22T22:55:54Z")

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So did the debate at the church happen yet, or what? 😃

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/163 "2015-10-23T01:00:58Z")

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> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#):
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> A dish made with Spam is disappointing? I am shocked.

[Del]Spoken[/del] Keyboarded like someone who’s never had spam musubi.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/164 "2015-10-23T01:02:31Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> So did the debate at the church happen yet, or what? 😃

Tonight at 7:00 p.m. local time. In one hour from the time of this post.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/165 "2015-10-23T01:32:32Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Come out here and call me stupid to my face and I’ll show you what I know.

[Moderating]  
**dougie** , it’s against board rules to threaten other posters with physical violence. I know you know this, because I’ve mod noted you about it in the past. So this one is a formal warning.  
[/Moderating]

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/166 "2015-10-23T01:33:18Z")

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> [@Maggie\_the\_Ocelot](#):
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> I pimped my favorite in post 112. Also The Local Place for more Hawaiian food\*, but mostly for their amazing pastries - Husband and I fight over their walnut rolls, I adore their Banana Supreme, and the Dobash cake is a moist chocolatey thing of joy. They’re a quick-service version of the King’s Hawaiian restaurant, so of course the baked goods are superb. Seriously, it’s a coin toss between their pastries and Portos’, they’re that good.
> 
> Oh! And Josie’s Taco Stand advertises the best chicken tacos in town, and they do not disappoint.  
> \*Though avoid their spam musubi, it’s just disappointing.

shame about the spam musubi. I have a weakness for it. 😃

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/167 "2015-10-23T04:10:04Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> At night, under the covers, with a flashlight.

That is the most ignorant comment yet!  
When I found that quote–in which, incidentally, the last word WAS spelled “coleri”-- I was a sophomore in high school… The book was from the public library in Hermosa Beach; it was _How to Cope With_ by Merrill Pollack. There was no “they” to restrict my access to any reading material; it you were as smart as you act you would have read above that I had no contact with the Witnesses until October 1970 and even then nobody restricted my access to public libraries then, or at any time since.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/168 "2015-10-23T04:20:25Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> **dougie** , it’s against board rules to threaten other posters with physical violence. I know you know this, because I’ve mod noted you about it in the past. So this one is a formal warning.  
> [/Moderating]

Mr./Ms. Moderator, if you’ve been reading others’ comments in this thread you would know that, by comparison, others’ remarks are far more vile and belligerent than mine are.  
So unless there IS a double standard, as I suggested upthread, you may want to admonish the others who had spewed verbal garbage at me. Granted this is The BBQ Pit, but there is supposed to be a thin line even here between what will be tolerated and what will not, and I insist that I am not the only one who could be accused of crossing it.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/169 "2015-10-23T04:22:01Z")

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I found this quote in April 1965.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/170 "2015-10-23T04:28:19Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Mr./Ms. Moderator, if you’ve been reading others’ comments in this thread you would know that, by comparison, others’ remarks are far more vile and belligerent than mine are.

Did you report them?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/171 "2015-10-23T04:40:36Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Mr./Ms. Moderator, if you’ve been reading others’ comments in this thread you would know that, by comparison, others’ remarks are far more vile and belligerent than mine are.  
> So unless there IS a double standard, as I suggested upthread, you may want to admonish the others who had spewed verbal garbage at me. Granted this is The BBQ Pit, but there is supposed to be a thin line even here between what will be tolerated and what will not, and I insist that I am not the only one who could be accused of crossing it.

Did anyone threaten physical harm unto you? What specific rules do you feel the other posters have broken? Miller specifically started which rule you broke. What rules did they break? There are not rules against being “vile” or “belligerent”. What rules were breached by others in this thread?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/172 "2015-10-23T04:56:32Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Granted this is The BBQ Pit, but there is supposed to be a thin line even here between what will be tolerated and what will not,…

Not as thin as your skin.

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/173 "2015-10-23T05:01:59Z")

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Look, dougie, if A B & C are against the rules, And your opponent says D and even E, and you respond with B! Who do you think will catch a warning? D and E aren’t against the rules. B IS. It didn’t matter that you think d and e are worse than B.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/174 "2015-10-23T05:06:54Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Mr./Ms. Moderator, if you’ve been reading others’ comments in this thread you would know that, by comparison, others’ remarks are far more vile and belligerent than mine are.  
> So unless there IS a double standard, as I suggested upthread, you may want to admonish the others who had spewed verbal garbage at me. Granted this is The BBQ Pit, but there is supposed to be a thin line even here between what will be tolerated and what will not, and I insist that I am not the only one who could be accused of crossing it.

I suggested you were stupid, I didn’t \*threaten \*you.

Was I right, and you’re not smart enough to understand the difference?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/175 "2015-10-23T05:10:56Z")

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> [@August\_West](#):
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> I prefer “Nimium ne crede coloni”
> 
> (Don’t trust your gut)

Huh. My translator renders that as “do not trust farmers”

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/176 "2015-10-23T05:12:42Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Huh. My translator renders that as “do not trust farmers”

Most farmers are assholes.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/177 "2015-10-23T05:17:01Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Most farmers are assholes.

I am not so fond of assholes, but I usually find them trustworthy. Inasmuch as they are predictable/consistent.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/178 "2015-10-23T05:25:49Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> Mr./Ms. Moderator, if you’ve been reading others’ comments in this thread you would know that, by comparison, others’ remarks are far more vile and belligerent than mine are.  
> So unless there IS a double standard, as I suggested upthread, you may want to admonish the others who had spewed verbal garbage at me. Granted this is The BBQ Pit, but there is supposed to be a thin line even here between what will be tolerated and what will not, and I insist that I am not the only one who could be accused of crossing it.

Then perhaps you should stay out of the Pit if it pisses you off that much. (We get it – you don’t like people criticizing your religion. Too bad. That’s allowed here.)

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/179 "2015-10-23T06:58:24Z")

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I wonder how the “debate” went.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/in-re-atheists-v-christians-debate/735153/180 "2015-10-23T12:13:53Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> [Moderating]  
> **dougie** , it’s against board rules to threaten other posters with physical violence. I know you know this, because I’ve mod noted you about it in the past. So this one is a formal warning.  
> [/Moderating]

If it’s any consolation, I didn’t take it as a threat. I don’t want **dougie** banned from SDMB. It’s fun talking to somebody frozen in the mid 60’s and watching them struggle with culture shock.

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